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terrymcniven
#1 Posted : 5/19/2014 6:37:35 PM

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Hi everyone, just a small thread to say that ive started my own shaman garden, I currently live in north-east Scotland, UK ( I know ahard climate) Ive just got my baby Morning Glorys of to a start I have 2 varieties, Heavenly Blue and Flying Saucer, which are looking real healthy, I started them in a common seed compost with low nutes till i re-lant them in my garden, I plan to start a Mimosa Hostilis, but I know that the climate here isnt good enough for Jurema so I will be groing her indoors using a high pressure sodium to give her the extra boost in lumens. If anyone has any suggestions for my garden it would be much appreciated, I have a good knowledge of growing Mary-Jane and google is my friend If i have any problems, a friend has also offered mesome salvia.divinorum cuttings, if anyone has any cuttings or spare seeds that would be greatly appreciated. Peace x
 

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#2 Posted : 5/19/2014 11:22:04 PM

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That's great, I am doing the same at the moment myself. Might I suggest some HBWR to add to your garden. I have 4 of the little guys coming on nicely and after roughly 1 month are 2" tall.

I live in the UK also so I will bring them inside during the harsh winter weather we get!

The germination phase is the hardest and where most people fail as they are prone to bacterial infection. I followed this guide on germination and found that using plain tap water was sufficient to germinate the seeds.

Good luck brother Smile
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#3 Posted : 5/20/2014 1:15:56 AM

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That's interesting I'm currently growing the exact to strains of morning glories as you. I grew the two last year and it definitely seemed like the heavenly blue we're more potent which seems to fall in par with what most people say. Unfortunately you are not in a very tropical climate but you could try to grow more then just Jurema and grow some shrooms inside. Growing shrooms is one of my favorite things to do and is an absolute necessity for any shamanic garden haha Seriously it's a blast and if you have friends you want to show your botanical set up id suggest getting a really cool looking strain. There's hundreds of them and I'd suggest which ones I like(Cambodians) but that is all subjective. Just don't get Albino Penis Envy because your friends will look at you weird. Hahaha
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#4 Posted : 5/20/2014 5:37:43 PM

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@ Beyond words: Thanks for the suggestion of the HBWR, i was actually thinking od getting some seeds in the near future, where in the UK do u live? will HBWR be able to withstand the scottish weather lol? I take it you mean to grow in pot culture and bring inside on colder months?

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@ hopefull: I have thought of growing some shrooms to be honest, but dont know where to begin with them, I plan to take a spore print this year from Psilocybe semilanceata (liberty Caps), do you know of any reliable ways on growing them, any info would be greatly appreciated.
 
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#5 Posted : 5/20/2014 10:38:17 PM

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I live on the Isle of Man so its not the best weather here!

Yes, I germinated them in paper towels inside a zip-lock bag in my window. The zip lock bag was left open to allow free movement of air. Every few days I would open them up to see how they were doing and move into a pot with sterilized soil in. I guess I could have used better soil with nutrients in, I did not think to do that.

They are currently growing inside and will continue to do so until they are a big more established. I am worried that moving them outside would make them extremely vulnerable to the wind until their are more established. I am not sure I will even leave them outside as I have heard that you can only grow them outside in CA and FL due to the climate.

I am interested in growing some shrooms also, I was wondering if they are grown in, can you transplant them outside, or would they die relatively quickly?

The Shroomery is where we should ideally go for a lot more dedicated knowledge, but I'm sure a lot of nexans have experience with growing also!
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#6 Posted : 5/21/2014 3:31:31 PM

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thanks for the advice, ive got some HBWR seeds on the way, ive also got a baby mimosa hostilis on its way aswell, i plan to grow her indoors using artificial lighting to supplement the natural sunlight, i will post back and let you know how things go from time to time, I would go on shroomery but Im using the librarys computer and it has a damn filter which doesnt allow me to go onto shroomery website Sad
 
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#7 Posted : 5/21/2014 5:12:37 PM

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Growing your own plants must be quite special. Unfortunately I don't have a garden, but in Holland you can legally grow your shrooms. Your can buy very easy a grow-kit. No green hands are needed. How is this in other countries?
 
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#8 Posted : 5/21/2014 5:40:20 PM

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Growing your own plants must be quite special. Unfortunately I don't have a garden, but in Holland you can legally grow your shrooms. Your can buy very easy a grow-kit. No green hands are needed. How is this in other countries?


I wish the UK had relaxed laws like in Holland, it is currently illegal to grow, buy, sell shrooms, although when autumn comes around i will be making the most out of the Psilocybe semilanceata (liberty caps) season, I plan to make a spore print aswell and hopefully manage to cultivate my own libs as I reackon it would be deeply rewarding. IDo you have any shrooms growing at the moment? If so, which strain(s)
 
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#9 Posted : 5/21/2014 5:49:57 PM

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I live on the Isle of Man so its not the best weather here!

Yes, I germinated them in paper towels inside a zip-lock bag in my window. The zip lock bag was left open to allow free movement of air. Every few days I would open them up to see how they were doing and move into a pot with sterilized soil in. I guess I could have used better soil with nutrients in, I did not think to do that.

They are currently growing inside and will continue to do so until they are a big more established. I am worried that moving them outside would make them extremely vulnerable to the wind until their are more established. I am not sure I will even leave them outside as I have heard that you can only grow them outside in CA and FL due to the climate.

I am interested in growing some shrooms also, I was wondering if they are grown in, can you transplant them outside, or would they die relatively quickly?

The Shroomery is where we should ideally go for a lot more dedicated knowledge, but I'm sure a lot of nexans have experience with growing also!



about the Argyreia nervosa (HWBR) I think if you aclimatised them v.slowly then planted out in a spot sheltered from the wind but with plenty of daytime sunshine they would grow fine as I have just done abit of rooting around on google and found a couple of promising comments on another site about someone who grew with success.
 
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#10 Posted : 5/21/2014 5:56:09 PM

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No I don't grow them myself (yet), since I only did shrooms once. In the future I will definitely try it. Maybe I give my mother a morning glory for her birthday Wink
 
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#11 Posted : 5/21/2014 6:06:21 PM

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everyone has gotta star somewhere, i take it you can buy g different species spore syringes in holland aswell? i will let you know how my own mushroom cultivating goes when its in lib cap season
 
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#12 Posted : 5/21/2014 9:03:37 PM

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terrymcniven wrote:

about the Argyreia nervosa (HWBR) I think if you aclimatised them v.slowly then planted out in a spot sheltered from the wind but with plenty of daytime sunshine they would grow fine as I have just done abit of rooting around on google and found a couple of promising comments on another site about someone who grew with success.


Oh that's great to know, I will have a look into this also Smile keep each other and the rest of the community posted on our progress via this thread!

I spent NYE in Amsterdam with some dutch friends and found it sensational. I tried truffles and very much enjoyed the experience. I have previously don't shrooms a few times and rate truffles highly! I'm already looking forward to my next trip back there in the summer!

Yeah you can buy spore prints and grow kits as well as ready to eat truffles. Just Google 'Smartshop' - I bought mine from here when I was there, but please do not import any!!

I would still be interested in growing shrooms indoors and then moving outdoors to hopefully have them come back year after year. Are you aware if this is possible?
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#13 Posted : 5/22/2014 8:31:15 AM

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BeyondWords wrote:

I would still be interested in growing shrooms indoors and then moving outdoors to hopefully have them come back year after year. Are you aware if this is possible?


Most of the time cubensis won't keep growing back year after year, I've never seen it anyway.
Soil has a lot of competitive organisms that love to eat cubensis mycelium.

P.cyanescens or P.subaeruginosa and other woodlovers take up permanent residence (the mycelium does anyway) and produce fruit in the appropriate season each year.

I used to bury my cubensis substrates in the garden after they'd had a few good flushes and started to decline in vigor. I didn't really bury them, I'd just make a hole deep enough for the sub and just barely cover them with coir. They always produced enough fruit to make it worth doing.

Snails, slugs and many other insects will eat the fruit too, so it pays to pick them at or around the time the veil breaks so you don't lose too many to pests.

After a month to six weeks I found that most or all the mycelium was gone.

I used to grow mine under zucchini or pumpkin leaves because of the humid micro climate.
 
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#14 Posted : 5/22/2014 8:31:44 AM
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Grow tents seem most promising for those living in the north. Bit of an investment I guess. Also have you ever seen the root mass on plants growing hydr/aquaponics ly? Without the resistance of soil they grow effortlessly, much faster (BIG). It would be interesting.
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#15 Posted : 5/22/2014 10:44:14 AM

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Grow tents seem most promising for those living in the north. Bit of an investment I guess. Also have you ever seen the root mass on plants growing hydr/aquaponics ly? Without the resistance of soil they grow effortlessly, much faster (BIG). It would be interesting.


I know someone who grows weed using deep water culture method, the results are astonishing, i mean, the siz f the root mass amazes me especially with no soil/coir etc
 
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#16 Posted : 7/7/2014 10:32:15 PM

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Late reply I know, I have been super busy recently!

by 'grow tents' do you mean the polyethylene cover greenhouse they sell in Argos and B&Q for ~£25? I was thinking of getting one of these, but I have read that they like indirect sunlight so I have placed them in my window, where they do not receive constant sunlight.

How are yours coming along? 75% of mine are ~5" tall and have already been re-potted once. They are climbing upwards following a straight bamboo cane very fast!
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#17 Posted : 7/8/2014 9:36:34 AM

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Hi,
I wonder if I can share some picture here with you.
Here's my little humble shaman garden of myself Smile
I could have had cacti also, but it never arrived after i ordered the seed. so sad. Sad
I'm still waiting for it to arrived tho its almost 2 months now. I hope the cacti god bring them to me one day.

Here you go.

MG Baby in my plastic food container Razz


After transplanted into mother earth


Most recent picture. Its growth rate is exploding fast now. It also starts to flower Smile But the flower wilted so fast I couldn't even snap picture in time Razz


My other star of stars is also born. Razz


One of the fastest growing star, its 2 month old and about 6" tall now Smile
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#18 Posted : 7/8/2014 10:01:01 PM

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Your MG look good, nice and large now! The only reason I didn't want to grow MG is because their an annual and prefer being able to look at a perennial in a few years knowing my car has made it grow to how it is now Smile

What is the bottom plant your growing? Sorry for my ignorance!
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#19 Posted : 7/9/2014 2:22:43 AM

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BeyondWords wrote:
Your MG look good, nice and large now! The only reason I didn't want to grow MG is because their an annual and prefer being able to look at a perennial in a few years knowing my car has made it grow to how it is now Smile

What is the bottom plant your growing? Sorry for my ignorance!


Its Mimosa Hostilis! Thumbs up
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#20 Posted : 9/22/2014 3:57:55 PM
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sorry bout not replying... ive just spent some time at her majestys pleasure my other account "terrymcniven" is suspended for some reason until year 2288
messed up lol
 
 
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