That bestine shit is running $12.99 for a 16 oz container. This isnt any kind of must for dmt clean-up, or is it?

Who cares $25.00 smacked down on 2 cans. So now I can go see if I can get these cubes to gleam.

No, it is not necessary to use bestine to clean up spice.

However, it does work a lot better than naphtha. I am still on my first can that I bought over a year ago. using 50-100mL at a time really makes it hard to use it up quickly. Never pull spice with the bestine only use it to clean up the spice.

If you don't want to shell out the money for bestine, just use naphtha. You'll still get pretty crystals, you'll just have to be more careful. I suggest not heating the naphtha up too much. You don't want it too hot to touch.

Anybody know what is the best way to get the oil to sink to the bottom? Every time my friend gets the crystals to dissolve no oil appears. Then later the crystals that are stuck to the glass are yellow? On the initial recrystallization he gets most of it out but can never seem to get the rest?

These are a list of art supply stores which carry Bestine Rubber Cement Solvent and Thinner.

http://papercement.com/c...scstore+xzlh1782ffa36aa3

Use less solvent & don't heat it too much.

Use a hot water bath to warm the solvent to no more than 100-120F degrees.

Break up the DMT into a loose powder as much as possible, so it will dissolve easier.
Put it in a separate small jar, I use a 50ml beaker.

Then use an eye dropper to add only 3-4 drops of the warm solvent at a time, to the jar with the DMT in it, swirling the jar around for at least 30 sec before adding more.
Also, use the hot water bath to help keep the solvent being used warm. After adding a few drops of solvent to the jar of DMT, then swirl it around to mix it while holding the bottom of the jar in the hot water bath. The heat will help to dissolve the DMT quicker & easier.

At some point any excess, discolored crap, will start to coagulate on the bottom.
Don't add any more, unless you notice solids in the colored stuff forming on the bottom.
If you add too much solvent too fast, or it's too hot, the impurities will dissolve too.

I just did this with Heptane & I only used a little less than 20ml of Heptane to completely dissolve a little over 500mg of very pure DMT. (It will take a bit more if using Naptha.)
I have some nice large 100% clear, lotus flower-like crystals growing in there now at room temperature. Much like the ones on the first page of this thread.
It's only been 24 hours & their quite large already!! I'll add some pics when I get em out in a week or too.

Oh and as far as the Heptane (Bestine) being expensive, if you don't end up evaporating it, it can be reused for a number of re-crystallization, so it's really an investment.
I bought one small 120ml container of it over a year ago & I've used it now for around 5-6 re-crystallization's!!
I've still got over 3/4 of it left too!
Normally, I don't need to use any more than 20-30ml & I usually freeze precipitate & filter out the DMT. Then reuse it next time.
With the crystals I'm growing now, after a few days, I'm going to cut a slit in the top of the plastic seal & let it evaporate down this time though.

Not really so expensive...


WS

I just finished growing some very nice sized & very pure, clear crystals in room temp Heptane (Bestine).

Here are a few pics.

The biggest one is .168mg & 100% clear throughout!! Quite nice for just letting it all sit there for a week!

Just wanting to show off a little, first time I've done anything but freeze precip, my crystals are normally extremely pure, but small.

WS

Those chunks look good thanx for the pics.

What tek do you use for extraction? STB or A/B?
How much time do you spend cleaning up and re-crystallization?


But personally I don't mind yellow spice. I like DMT n-oxide..

Very Nice WSaged. Heptane is the absolute best I've tried so far for ReXing the SPice.
SOme like it yellow, some like it white, some like them both.
I still don't have a ton of experience but so far the white seems to come on a lot smoother for me.

Ooops, posted w/o being signed in.

what tool do you use to scrape off such a rounded surface?

The big chunks just pop off I used a sewing needle to wedge them loose. I use an old auto insurance card to scrape the insides of round shot glasses and mason jars. Its basically a super light thin plastic business card. flexes around easily.

Just incredible work there Xenonison.
I have gotten some very shiny, sparkly looking stuff doing heptane freeze precips in shot glasses but those large clear crystals are fantastic. I love playing with the process almost as much as I love the spice itself. I will have to see if I can get some large crystals like that. Give me an excuse to either clean up some yellower stuff or do a little more extracting. Like I need an excuse LOL.

And just scored big time!
The local art store that I go to for my Bestine, which used to carry only the small little can of it now carries the quart can for only 16.99!!
This should last me for quite a while, although I have been evapping some of it lately rather than freeze precip. It evaps so quickly off a glass dish that one can clean up some spice in a hurry. Now that I have it all white I may ReX one last time and let it slowly cool and freeze precip to try and get it more crystalline.
Went from yellow to white w/ little sparkles so one more time should really make it special.

nice crystals

Those x-tals look motivating. SWIM just ordered 1750g powdered root bark! SWIM loves pictorial tutorials.

Very Well Done! Beautiful!

I suppose this tek can be done with lesser amounts of crystals? Such as 1/2 gram of DMT with 20-30ml naphtha?

I've distilled supertech starting fluid and ended up with heptane, diethyl ether, and some nasty lubricants. If I remember correctly I used a erlenmeyer flask, vigeraux column, worm style condenser, and a submersible fountain pump in a refrigerated water bath that was intended to keep milk chilled for a commercial espresso machine with inline milk frother. The distillation flask had a thermometer inserted and a vigerux column on top leading to the improvised condenser. I can't remember the temps but use a digital hotplate with a water bath and some method of raising the distillation flask off the bottom surface of the waterbath, turn up heat SLOWLY. If I were to do this again I'd use a vacuum on the assembly to lower boiling points and eliminate vapors. When storing ether use a dark glass flask, and insert a piece of copper tubing to prevent peroxide formation, and keep the jar away from sunlight or heat. If I were to do this again I'd use a vacuum on the assembly to lower the boiling points.

get a wooden dowel, about 2 inches taller than your jar then use a bandsaw to cut the dowel in half legnthwise for 3.3" then insert a credit card, adjust the credit card so that the length of the the card sticks out enough so that the dowel doesn't hit the sides of the jar mouth when scraping the walls. Then the credit card is adjusted properly cut the backside of the card off, glue in place coat the entire handle with "plasti dip" to get rid of any groves that things may get caught in. The credit card has a length of 3.37" so the bottom portion sticking out of the dowel can be trimmed to fit the profile of your rounded bottom jars, if using a flat bottomed beaker the rounded edge of the card fits the profile nicely already. I like to use a black plasti dip so that any xtals on the handle are clearly visible.

Wine aficionados have a product called "Oenophilia Private Preserve Wine Preserver" which is a can of inert gas, it's about $10/bottle, the gas is heavier than air so you only need a bit, you don't need to completely flood the atmosphere in the collection vessel, just make a little layer on top. You can test the amount needed by filling your collection vessel to it's normal level with WATER do a test squirt, insert a match, the flame will be extinguished when it hits the inert gas. DO NOT TEST WITH SOLVENT, if the layer is not large enough it would catch fire.