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peacefulSKY
#41 Posted : 5/11/2014 6:17:53 PM
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Vaped the crystals. Nothing.
 

Live plants. Sustainable, ethically sourced, native American owned.
 
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#42 Posted : 5/12/2014 1:10:59 AM

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Possibly inactive then?
Does anyone have an alkaloid list for A. Donax?
 
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#43 Posted : 5/12/2014 5:23:01 AM

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If you got to 5.3 chemicals here it gives a list http://en.wikipedia.org/...i/Arundo_donax#Chemicals
 
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#44 Posted : 5/12/2014 10:20:44 AM

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Okay. Did some reading.
Have you heard of Isoprene?
It is released by trees and shrubs possibly as a way to deal with heat stress. Also A. Donax.
Plants do not produce it at night.
Fosmidomycin(which is available for purchase) inhibits isoprene synthesis from dimethylallyl pyrophosphate.
Isoprene accounts for 1/3 of hydrocarbons released into atmosphere.
"After release, isoprene is converted by free radicals (like the hydroxyl (OH) radical) and to a lesser extent by ozone into various species, such as aldehydes, hydroperoxides, organic nitrates, and epoxides, which mix into water droplets and help create aerosols and haze."-wiki

Many plants emit isoprene but am not certain of which ones.

So if in fact isoprene is affecting extractions then destructive distillation or pyrolysis might need to be performed.

Read up on "cracking" in chemistry.
Possibly this is affecting the yields or at least the effectiveness.


Perhaps a nice cool setting in Autumn or Winter on a night with not a cloud in the sky would be the precise method to harvest these reeds.


 
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#45 Posted : 5/12/2014 10:23:01 AM

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...And if those wiki alkaloid percentages are correct then looks like you'd need to smoke near a few hundred milligrams of extract or a few hundred grams of rhizome tea to really get anything.

Could be completely wrong.
Never trust science.
 
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#46 Posted : 5/13/2014 8:05:10 AM
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