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Bejamin
#1 Posted : 5/10/2014 2:42:04 AM

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Hi there! Big grin

I've tried Datura Stramonium a small handful of times. The first time I ate it, I had no idea what it was, had never heard of a Tropane Alkaloid, my buddy said, "Hey, Ben! Eat this! It'll make ya' trip!" I ate one flower the first time I took it as did a handful of travelers I was with, we all fell asleep and woke up at approximately the same time, every step I took felt as if the Earth was falling out from under me. I remember having full-length conversations with my fellow travelers that I'd eaten it with, which we all acknowledged that we were having, which we all subsequently discovered were all in our collective heads. Telepathy! (Or Schizophrenia! Flip sides of the same coin! Laughing ) As soon as I realized the conversations we were having were all in our collective heads, I immediately tried to articulate it verbally, and all that came out were garbled half-syllables, not even close to words. After a couple people disappearing, I slowly realized I was to the level of full delirium, unlike any trip I'd ever had before, very pleasant life-changing conversations with people who turned out not to be there, heck'uva head trip. Some of the side-effects were an inability to focus my eyes on anything for the next week or so. I met one of the travelers I was with last year, who informed me that 98% of the things that I VIVIDLY remember didn't actually happen. He likes to play head games with people, though. At the same time, though, the very fact that I have to question whether it happened or not is a testament to the immense power of the Datura plant. Something not to be taken flippantly. In an infinite Existence, it happened both ways, the dimensions parted, I went and had the journey at the same time that I didn't. On the same hand though, last month, I ran into one of the girls I ate it with, and she said that it did happen. She also ate it, though, so, well, y'know... It's all up for debate, and it's all true, false and meaningless. Big grin Laughing

The next time I ate it I ate two flowers, and experienced nothing but a little drowsiness. Those two experiences were in October of '12.

Recently a good head sent me 250 Datura Stramonium seeds from the land down under, I've planted a handful and they're coming up wonderfully. Very happy Here's my trip report from 4/21/14 when I ate approximately a couple teaspoons of seeds.

4:21:14 9:34P.M. :: Orally ingested 27 Datura Stramonium seeds with intentions of infinite love and gratitude.
Intentions of knowledge, intentions of exploration. Intentions of pushing limits. Intentions of a good time.
9:36P.M. :: Tool album, The Holy Gift begins playing on youtube.
10:25P.M. :: No effects yet. A seemingly heightened sense of sight, been noticing more of the pictures in the video and the finer details of Bowsers (dog) fur, potentially a placebo effect.
11:06P.M. :: Potential placebo effects still in place. No distortion. No mydrasis. Noticing more of the music. No hallucinations. A feeling of sharpened mental acuity.
4:22:14 1:33A.M. :: Watched the movie, Predator. Drank two cups of coffee, one with a 1/3 milk/coffee ratio. Just came in from sitting outside staring at the clouds and stars with Bowser, deep state of existential thought.
2;22pm :: Vivid dreams over the course of the approximately 12 hours of sleep
7:59P.M. :: ingested apx. a teaspoon of D. Str. seeds in a mayo, mustard, chicken salad, lettuce, American & swiss cheese sandwich at approximately 5:45. No notable effects.
4:23:14 3:00p.m. Interesting, intense dreams and deep, restful sleep. I was startled when awoken, as the dreams themselves had taken on the illusion of reality, for the time that I was dreaming, they were subjective Existence, this subjective Existence was naught but a long-forgotten memory. It took me a good five, ten seconds when I awoke to realize that it was, in fact, all a dream.

I know, I know, highly deadly'n'dangerous. Dang, I guess that sounds kind of careless and/or pompous, definitely not my intention, I just mean to clear the air of all warnings. Some of the threads I've read here are Questions about Datura?, alruin (Mandragora officinarum), datura extraction, and 20 Datura inoxia seeds eaten... What now?.

On the Questions about Datura? thread, I read about an extraction involving Canola oil in order to make a topical Scopalamine ointment, something that could perhaps be put on some blotter sheets. Not something I'd like to do, as from what it seems, the Atropine and Hyoscyamine are somehow separated to make a pure Scopalamine ointment.

My intentions here are to get the full effects of D. Stramonium while being able to accurately measure the doses, as unintentional harm is not something I wish to incur.

So far, about all I've found was "The best way to deal with scopolamine is to make a large concentrated mother tincture of Datura inoxia seeds, say 10 gallons or so, using a large batch of plant material. Then have 1 ml of that tested for scopolamine content. The 10 gallons of tincture will be uniform in potency, so if you know how potent 1 ml is, then you know how potent every 1 ml of that 10 gallons will be. This is how standardize tinctures are made. A small batch of the concentrated mother tincture is tested, and then diluted to assure a specific dosage of the target alkaloid is present per milliliter in the end product." which is something I'll definitely do if and when I do end up performing an extraction.

I just wanna' make the most of la belladonna. Smile

Thank you for your time, your contributions and your good vibrations. Love, light, and gratitude, family. Big grin
...Interesting, intense dreams and deep, restful sleep. I was startled when awoken, as the dreams themselves had taken on the illusion of reality, for the time that I was dreaming, they were subjective Existence, this subjective Existence was naught but a long-forgotten memory. It took me a good five, ten seconds when I awoke to realize that it was, in fact, all a dream...
 

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Cosmic Spore
#2 Posted : 5/10/2014 3:30:43 AM

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I have info on extraction of tropane alkaloids, but I'm afraid that it is not condoned on the nexus to post about that.

If I'm mistaken, let me know, and I'll link it all here.
 
 
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