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Drying alcahol with dessicant Options
 
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#1 Posted : 5/10/2009 10:28:05 AM

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where swim lives 43% alcahol is the highest commonly sold - how much can it be dried with anhydrous magnesium sulphate or silica jel or whatever -
perhaps packing a thp with dessicant and pouring the alcahol thru - or sitting the salts in the alcahol in a sealed bottle.
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#2 Posted : 5/10/2009 10:32:48 AM

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can the vodka or whatever be partially frozen - so that at least a portion of the liquid is frozen filtered and re semi frozen to achieve at least a partial change in alcahol/water ratio ?
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#3 Posted : 5/10/2009 10:41:35 AM
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and just assume that trying to use MgSO4 in solvents containing over 10% water content just won't cut it and you would need to at least perform a distillation to get any appreciable results.

I may be horribly wrong, in which case I sure hope someone comes along more knowledgeable than myself Very happy

if you has access to a pressure cooker, all you would need is some alcohols (any percent) and some rubber tubing to create a make-shift still (assuming the pressure cooker utilises a weighted bobble to control PSI).
 
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#4 Posted : 5/10/2009 11:03:30 AM

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swim tried that once but on tasting the product the pc pushed out - it was about 40 % the volume i put in but it still tasted like it was largely water - any tips on how to use the pc for distillation would be very appreciated.
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#5 Posted : 5/13/2009 1:52:08 AM
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All that should be necessary is high density plastic tubing and the ability to heat the PC to a constant 180°F. you'll still be getting water vapors but it should work pretty well.

I am unsure of where you live, but there is something called perfumers alcohol which is almost always 95+% ethyl alcohol usually with the only adulterant being a bitterant to prevent direct abuse. Within the U.S., you are legally allowed to buy up to 5 gallons of ethyl alcohol per year without a license.

If you do decide to bypass trying to distill the 43% stuff you currently have access to, the following list of commonly available denatured alcohols should aid you in finding a preparation which is least adulterated. Perfumers alcohol is usually fairly cheap.
Alcohol denaturant listing
 
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#6 Posted : 5/13/2009 6:58:02 AM

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Given the interest in alcohol based fuel, there are COUNTLESS discussions of distillation on the internet. Search "Ethanol distillation" and you'll find something easy and practical.

I've also made a link in extractions >> general and noob, to an MIT chemistry techniques series of videos. You could probably use "simple" distillation, since the BP difference between water and ethanol is 22C. Here's a direct link to the video series.
 
 
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