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Animystic
#1 Posted : 5/2/2014 7:58:24 AM

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I had my first Aya experience last weekend. This experience with DMT was, once again, not something I could have prepared for on a first attempt. I increased my dosage to 10g Acacia confusa, per advice from Sabnock.

I was shown that I don’t exist and, in fact, nothing exists. I did some research on this idea and found that quantum theory kind of backs up the idea that nothing really exists until something looks at it. But, alas, quantum theory doesn’t exist either.

I’ve been star gazing much more since my journey and something occurred to me: My whole life I’ve looked at the constellations that are supposed to depict animals and various gods; I couldn’t understand how anyone could see a bear in the big dipper. But tonight (sober, except a few beers), I looked at the Ursa Major stars and I could totally see how a person could make a bear out of those stars.

So I have this question: how else could people see the shapes of animals and a man with a bow and arrow in the sky? Somehow tiny dots turn into sacred characters. How could humans do this without psychedelics? I think psychedelics have driven astrology from the beginning. Maybe this isn’t as profound as I think, and maybe this has even come up on the Nexus, but I haven’t had anyone relate this idea to me.

Any thoughts or criticism?


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#2 Posted : 5/2/2014 12:36:58 PM

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I'm sceptical that it was psychedelics that made star gazing possible. Our ancestors had nothing to do but look up at the stars at night. It's hardly surprising that constellations were thought of and memorised.

The nothing existing thing is interesting. I'm pretty sure quantum theory hasn't been disproved or anything? It's just that no one has made sense of it as being a unifying theory. Neither has string theory, and there are proponents for each.
 
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#3 Posted : 5/2/2014 1:55:25 PM

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If you are talking about the idea that measuring something causes the measured (object) to take on a particular state then it isnt saying it doesnt exist its more than that, more than I can recall in the detail needed to provide a correct explanation.
The observation causes the probability wave function to collapse.
http://en.m.wikipedia.or...i/Wave_function_collapse


You should watch the latest episode of the new Cosmos that goes into a theory regarding early mans first awareness of the Cosmos.
 
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#4 Posted : 5/2/2014 3:08:45 PM

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hello Animystic,

i don't think constellations have to be psychedelically inspired, get any little kid to look up at the sky and they will come up with all kinds of crazy pictures from the stars. I think this is like when you see an excellent piece of psychedelic art, people say the artist must be on something to produce these pieces, but the truth is some people are just good at drawing.

I don't think you have the grasp of the QM thing, citta has written a few informative posts about it which are worth searching out

this may be worth a read through if you haven't already.
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#5 Posted : 5/2/2014 7:18:25 PM

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Quantum Theory for me is a wonderful backbone for my beliefs. It provides perfect scientific framework to everything you can imagine.

What exists are all possibilities. And when there is an observer (consciousness) - one of them is chosen, and realities form. Things like matter and forces.

If conscious thought comes before matter. Then by reason of logic it stands to purport that our own conscious thought can change or create our own realities.

This has been shown with Dr Emoto's experiement where human emotion affected water crystals, based on scientific observation, and it is of course talked about worldwide under labels such as self-help. The book "The Secret", is exclusively on the practical and applicable side of this.

All dots become connected with psychedelics. Thumbs up
 
Animystic
#6 Posted : 5/3/2014 6:16:42 AM

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Excellently worded.

I should elaborate upon my experience so as to explain more of the lessons I learned. By the end, I looked at my dog and tried to justify why she was sitting there in front of me, seeming to exist; it is because I love her. And the final conclusion that I came to is this: Nothing exists except one thing: Love. That's the only thing that exists. What an exquisite feeling.
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#7 Posted : 5/3/2014 6:54:12 AM

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Adjhart wrote:
Quantum Theory for me is a wonderful backbone for my beliefs. It provides perfect scientific framework to everything you can imagine.

What exists are all possibilities. And when there is an observer (consciousness) - one of them is chosen, and realities form. Things like matter and forces.

If conscious thought comes before matter. Then by reason of logic it stands to purport that our own conscious thought can change or create our own realities.

This has been shown with Dr Emoto's experiement where human emotion affected water crystals, based on scientific observation, and it is of course talked about worldwide under labels such as self-help. The book "The Secret", is exclusively on the practical and applicable side of this.

All dots become connected with psychedelics. Thumbs up


FYI Dr. Emoto was never able to replicate his results and thus has been debunked to the level of pseudoscience.
 
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#8 Posted : 5/3/2014 7:14:13 AM

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his reults for the rice experiment have been replicated I think.
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