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maranello551
#1 Posted : 4/14/2014 5:00:08 AM
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Does anybody have experience with more than one of these MAOIs and their use with either DMT or mushrooms? How do they compare in terms of actual effects? Which provides the most shamanically "useful" effect?
 

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#2 Posted : 4/17/2014 8:47:07 PM
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Opinions?
 
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#3 Posted : 4/17/2014 9:28:18 PM

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It's all preference and circumstances, man. I doubt there are many on this board who would feel strongly enough to give a solid position on which maoi is most shamanically "useful". If there are significant differences beside dosage and administration methods, they are the differences of effect from body type to body type. Therefore definite opinions will vary, far and wide.
 
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#4 Posted : 4/17/2014 9:51:19 PM

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maranello551 wrote:
Which provides the most shamanically "useful" effect?

How do you define "shamanically useful"?

What is your own experience in those terms?
 
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#5 Posted : 4/18/2014 1:30:11 AM
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The best shift in perception while giving the least "confusing" trip that allows you to maintain all body function if not improve it. What makes you feel most like you have (or actually gives you (for those who believe)) "supernatural" abilities.
 
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#6 Posted : 4/18/2014 2:51:34 AM

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maranello551 wrote:
"supernatural" abilities.

Aha! Becoming superman.. According to this thread you need to eat a kilo of goat testicles and 50 doses of rue. Wink

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maranello551
#7 Posted : 4/18/2014 4:52:13 AM
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Am I crazy by the nexus' standards too? I feel like Swim can move far more fluidly and maybe even teleport under heavy doses of dmt or psilocybin. I /know/ for a fact he can run faster.
 
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#8 Posted : 4/18/2014 11:54:07 AM

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I agree that psychedelics might in some cases improve your natural body control and general skills. I have noticed so with climbing, martial arts, playing guitar, singing.

That being said, I do not think they give you superpowers and I´d ask you to be careful if you think so because people have been known to be deluded with such things and suffer accidents and even die, or at least make a fool out of themselves Very happy

As for the harmalas usefulness for shamanic use, I cannot say because I think talking about `doing` shamanism as a westerner is somewhat questionable.

I can say though, that for personal development/introspection, visions, medicinal effects and effectiveness of absorption, I prefer caapi, then second rue, and third harmine or harmaline. For price and potentially for sustainability (if buying by internet instead of growing), rue first, then harmalas from rue, then caapi. For practicality and controlled experimentation, extracted harmalas is great though. All of them have their place
 
maranello551
#9 Posted : 4/29/2014 5:15:45 PM
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Has anybody experimented with harmine and oral dmt? What is that experience like?
 
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#10 Posted : 4/29/2014 5:28:13 PM

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Read the forums, please. There's tons of info on that. Look into pharmahuasca.
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#11 Posted : 4/29/2014 7:27:19 PM
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I've felt all sorts of "enhancements" by using Rue with Mimosa and Acacia. In fact, i even had a precognitive premonition on Rue and Acacia a few months ago, which sadly came true just two weeks later (my dad died, just like in my vision), which btw is just like the vision i had in a dream years ago about me being in the hospital and two months later i almost died from Salmonella Sepsis. So you gotta wonder, first of all if precognitive premonitions ARE real (and i've experienced two so far in my lifetime) AND it can happen in both dreams during sleep and visions during Ayahuasca, then there's obviously gotta be something opening up in the brain... Idk if this stuff can give you "superpowers", but i do think it can open up ESP-like sensory information. I would love for mainstream science to tell me there's no such thing as precognitive premonitions, because they'd be wrong, i've experienced them, there is absolutely nothing a skeptic can come up with that is more real than what i've experienced.

As for enhancing or improving natural body function through Ayahuasca, i personally have noticed my dexterity improves (i have motor impairments that seem to get better on Ayahuasca), my personality shifts to a much better personality, i have confidence, i have energy and motivation, i can sing better, dance better, i overall just FEEL better, i feel human, i feel whole, i feel like i know i should feel, but once the Ayahuasca leaves my system, so does all that enhancement. And it sucks because idk about anyone else, but because i have Aspergers/ADHD and my body is wired differently, it seems Ayahuasca can fill whatever gap is there and i just feel waaaaaay more normal than i've ever felt before. And it pisses me off to know there are so many synthetic Psychedelics that were banned in the 70's on no scientific basis whatsoever because who knows, i might be able to benefit from something like that.
 
 
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