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Lindsay Lohan used ayahuasca to recover from her miscarriage Options
 
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#61 Posted : 4/27/2014 8:52:03 AM

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Maybe Lindsay Lohan will become the new Terrence Mckenna.
 

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#62 Posted : 4/27/2014 9:35:57 AM

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I think some people drank Aya and smoked DMT and now believe they are in a special club, where they wish to have control over who is allowed to drink Aya and smoke DMT and who is not. And when they realize that it is beyond their control they get angry. It's an ego thing.


I can't speak for other people, but that's what i would think is the case. It is at least a question EVERYONE should ask themselves and be very honest.

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She is also a real person. The tabloids move around her, but are not her. It's not her fault the world is this way. She is just one single person, who grew up in that tabloid culture.

When we lack the ability to see real people with real lives and real problems, behind the media bs I think we have already lost more than we know.


Well put jamie. I have to see the "TV is crap" thread, kinda surprised me a bit, because to me it is without question that these kind of ...well...publications got their own agenda. If someone got made by the tabloids, it is a very sad affair. I don't know who that Lindsay Lohan is, but i can assure you that beneath all the celebrity gossip, there is a REAL PERSON...with REAL NEEDS.

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Maybe Lindsay Lohan will become the new Terrence Mckenna.


It's not that i sympathize with manstream culture. It's very superficial and therefore reductionist by nature. It is a hard thing to acknowledge, that there is culture you dislike...especially if it is creeping up on you.

Why not just let go of culture and be happy for Mrs. Lohan, the person?

A thought experiment

Imagine your mom, who is just a regular person. Part of the mainstream if you will. A "law abiding citizen". One day, she finally got her first taste of stardom. People are shouting at her on the streets "Aren't you the woman on the new hersheys baking cacao????". Over the years, she gains a good amount of fame. Becomes an icon. A meme. Standing for a "Clean america you can trust in" ...the symbol of a "good housewife". She starts to feel uneasy about this. She just wanted to make a bit of extra money to support you going to college. Now talk show hosts are calling....to talk about her views of america. About "morals". She feels more and more uneasy about this, but decides to go on TV to tell them all that they are wrong.

Cameas are on. The first question gets asked

"So, do you really think, wifes should be at home, in the kitchen?"
"Well...umm....if they want to, i guess? Listen, im not..."
"So you are saying that women are not more than "cooking machines" ...someone from the audience shouts
"No...not at all but..."
"BUT WHAT"

----We have to go for a break, be back soon with our next guest...marry, the nymphomanic rubber glove lover! ----

The next few weeks are not easy for mom. People on the street are starting to curse at her. Calling her a "antisocial, patriarchical ....twa...."

two months later....a whole discussion is raging tabloids, TV you name it...
Mom has a hard time sleeping now. Takes Pills....can't sleep without them. Gets addicted.

All sorts of tragedies happen ncluding you having to quit college because mom got so sick.

So mom, the "Celebrity" decides to fly to peru. Someone told her about a possible cure.
She gets there, drinks ayahuasca. To her amazement, a whle bunch of trauma gets lifted off her shoulders....she gets back....

googles ayahuasca to learn more about here experience, possibly find others to talk about it a bit more.

Finds this.
 
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#63 Posted : 4/27/2014 10:24:03 AM

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#65 Posted : 4/27/2014 1:22:00 PM

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Maybe Lindsay Lohan will become the new Terrence Mckenna.


It's not that i sympathize with manstream culture. It's very superficial and therefore reductionist by nature. It is a hard thing to acknowledge, that there is culture you dislike...especially if it is creeping up on you.


I do not have too much of a problem with a lot of "mainstream" culture. Art is fairly on the money with his views and i also think that the opposing sentiments are noble and have empathy for our fellow humans. I feel wretched that i only see comedy value in a thread discussing the pros and cons of Lindsay Lohan taking ayahuasca but i do not feel that it is my fault and i blame it on how i have been influenced by superficial culture. Blaming culture"s influence is a great way of passing the buck when it comes to responsibility.
 
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#67 Posted : 4/27/2014 9:50:35 PM

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On a hunch, I googled "lindsay lohan ayahuasca" and this thread is the 3rd link after the today.com and nbcnews.com articles.

If she googles herself and ayahuasca, she will see this thread. Who knows, she could decide to join our humble forum and become one of our illustrious anonymous members.

Hi Lindsay! Is that you? Don't mind the haters, come on in! Most of us don't bite. Laughing Thumbs up
 
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#68 Posted : 4/27/2014 9:56:02 PM

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On a hunch, I googled "lindsay lohan ayahuasca" and this thread is the 3rd link after the today.com and nbcnews.com articles.

If she googles herself and ayahuasca, she will see this thread. Who knows, she could decide to join our humble forum and become one of our illustrious anonymous members.

Hi Lindsay! Is that you? Don't mind the haters, come on in! Most of us don't bite. Laughing Thumbs up


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#69 Posted : 4/27/2014 10:06:24 PM

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Someone just give this girl a hug for Christ's sake, who cares about the medias spin. She clearly is suffering. She deserves the same respect that all people deserve.
 
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#70 Posted : 4/27/2014 10:26:07 PM

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LOL

I wouldn't be surprised if someone sends her a twitter or facebook message with a link directing her this way.
Sometimes it's good for a change. Other times it isn't.
 
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#71 Posted : 4/27/2014 10:27:11 PM

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Someone just give this girl a hug for Christ's sake, who cares about the medias spin. She clearly is suffering. She deserves the same respect that all people deserve.


Indeed. I hope she does more work with Mama Ayahuasca and receives the healing she needs to live a happy productive life.
 
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LOL

I wouldn't be surprised if someone sends her a twitter or facebook message with a link directing her this way.



......And I think she'll find that, even the people here who really seem to hate her for some reason, this thread is so much more gentle than, say, People Magazine would be if Lohan happened to gain two pounds. They would tear her apart like hungry jackals or sharks feeding on chum. Here the people feed on the rubes who would dare give her a chance and even praise her for going to the plant teachers instead of the pharmaceutical industry (which I'm sure she found to not cure a god damn thing over the years of drug abuse).
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#73 Posted : 4/28/2014 7:23:06 AM

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ziggus wrote:
On a hunch, I googled "lindsay lohan ayahuasca" and this thread is the 3rd link after the today.com and nbcnews.com articles.

Could be the Google bubble though. A lot of Google searches end up with displaying the Nexus on a high rank here. At least delete your Google cookies and reset your IP. Or check from a computer, which has nothing to do with the Nexus or Nexus related topics.
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#75 Posted : 4/28/2014 7:57:22 AM

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I googled Lindsay Lohan aswell. She was a child model at 3 years old!!!!! I think her parents may also be in need of a nice cup of ayahuasca.....

 
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#76 Posted : 4/28/2014 9:52:28 AM

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On a hunch, I googled "lindsay lohan ayahuasca" and this thread is the 3rd link after the today.com and nbcnews.com articles.


Even #2 on some datacenters (checked with a pro rank checker)

People are coming here, who are mainly interested in Lindsay Lohan because of this Thread.
If you have come here mainly because of Ms. Lohan, and registrations are open, i would love to hear your perspective Smile
 
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#77 Posted : 4/28/2014 4:15:28 PM

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In my defense, I actually wanted to create a real banner, but couldn't figure out how to create nice texts designs. So I doodled with the Lindsay banner and I surprisingly progressed. Still scrap material, but consider it a beginning. Very happy I hope better ones follow...


Without Lindsay. I promise! Very happy
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I googled Lindsay Lohan aswell. She was a child model at 3 years old!!!!! I think her parents may also be in need of a nice cup of ayahuasca.....





Every child in that Bruno clip should be taken away from those horrible parents. "How much does your baby weigh?" "About thirty pounds . . ." "Could the baby lose 10 pounds in a week?" "I'll do whatever it takes, sure." "Would you consider liposuction for the baby?" "If that's the last resort, sure."

Castration. Hysterectomy. These children would be better raised by wolves in the wild.
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#79 Posted : 4/28/2014 10:16:30 PM

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To those suggesting that perhaps the DMT-Nexus might be appearing in search results and perhaps counter-balancing the inevitable media sh*tstorm, I cleared all my histories, cookies and logs, and then searched "Ayahuasca, Lindsay" and everything I got was different news websites recycling this same article over and over again:

http://www.today.com/hea...uses-vomiting-1D79574411

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What is ayahuasca? Lindsay Lohan's 'cleanse' is probably illegal, causes vomiting

When Lindsay Lohan this week announced that she'd had a miscarriage, and that she coped partly with the help of a psychoactive “tea” often called ayahuasca, she underscored how popular the concoction has become in lands far away from its source in the jungles of South America.

She's among several celebrities who say they have turned to ayahuasca in the belief that drinking it can help resolve the confusions of modern life, ease addictions or boost a person’s spiritual and mental well-being. Tourist operations attract customers to South American locations for shamanistic ayahuasca ceremonies, suggesting that Western medicine can't “fix a growing negativity in people’s lives.”

Yet, so far there’s little in the way of gold-standard science supporting the claims for its benefits or any real oversight of “shamans” who claim to be experts in its use. Vomiting and diarrhea are usually part of the experience.

Using it at all in the United States is of questionable legality. A prime active ingredient in ayahuasca is N,N-Dimethyltryptamine, or DMT, a controlled substance in the U.S. That means it’s illegal for most people to import it or possess it.

Ayahuasca, also known as yagé and other names, is made by steeping the pounded stems of a vine and other ingredients in boiling water. Translated roughly as “vine of the soul,” ayahuasca is often called a hallucinogen but it’s really a psychedelic, said Brian T. Anderson, a medical candidate at Stanford University School of Medicine and an expert in medical anthropology. When used according to traditional practices, it causes illusions, he said, but the user is aware of the illusory quality of the experience.

Some users report an opening of the mind that leads to insights. In addition to traditional native ceremonies in the Amazon region, at least two religions, O Centro Espirita Beneficente Uniao do Vegetal, and the Church of the Holy Light of the Queen, both with branches in the U.S., use it for this purpose, something akin to the way some Native Americans use peyote. Both groups are allowed to use ayahuasca on religious freedom grounds, said U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration spokesman Rusty Payne.

In his book, "One River," ethno-botanist and author Wade Davis recounted his experience:

“The vomiting came suddenly, a short spasm like a child’s stomach in rebellion, followed almost immediately by a violent retching convulsion. A great stream turned into a serpentine river rushing over black plants and flowing beneath stars and cold winds and colors that turned one into another.”

Ultimately, Davis felt “exhaustion mingle with a deeper sensation, an intuition that what I had experienced, a confusion of random visual and auditory hallucinations without form or substance, was only a crude approximation of something indescribably rich and mysterious.”

For her part, Lohan called the experience "really intense" and said she saw herself die and being born, and that it encouraged her to let go of "the wreckage of my past."

Though vomiting and diarrhea are usually integral parts of an ayahuasca ceremony, consumption of amounts typically used appears to be safe, Anderson said. Although one U.S. teen named Kyle Joseph Nolan died during a ceremony in Peru, Anderson said the risks and possible benefits are "very context dependent.”

“This is not a public health problem like Spice,” the synthetic marijuana that has caused violent outbursts in users, he said.

Anderson, who has taken ayahuasca, describes concentrated introspection “that makes you feel your own feelings and get in touch with your own thoughts in ways people might find surprising.” Users he’s interviewed describe “reverence for whatever religious context it’s taken in.”

While ayahuasca is being explored for use in people fighting a variety of addictions, studies so far have been mostly inconclusive.

And if the vomiting and diarrhea weren't enough to stop you, here are some other warnings: Because of the way ayahuasca appears to work in the brain, people using anti-depressants, especially SSRIs, or serotonin reuptake inhibitors, should avoid it. The brew may also interact with other drugs, and should not be used by anyone with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.

Anderson was the lead author and signatory of a 2012 statement in the International Journal of Drug Policy favoring more flexible regulation by the government, but he said he does not favor unrestricted use of ayahuasca as a party drug.

Besides, vomiting and diarrhea aren't exactly what most people look for in a party drug.
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ah the celebrity craze.. how it even permeates my beloved nexus Rolling eyes

Why do people care about what someone does that literally has no connection to their own lives anyways?

I dont want to rant or offend anyone but it makes little sense to me in general...

Except if you casually jerk off to LL, then its oke i guess.
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