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the_aeons_torn
#1 Posted : 4/27/2014 1:12:54 PM
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Hello, all;
First, I would like to say that before anything else, I stand in awe and am humbled by everyone here. I am taken aback by the responsibility everyone shows to this molecule and subject. For how far I've gotten, I can only thank all of you.

To start, I became interested in the spice about a year ago. I did a lot of reading, and discussing it with close friends. I have yet to do any other hallucinogenic, for various reasons, but decided that this was the route to go.
I recently obtained 100g of MHRB, and decided to conduct my first extraction, following Q21's lime tek. I took the naphtha route, because it and the calcium hydroxide are easily obtainable in my area.
Keep in mind, neither my friends nor I have had any real hands-on experience with spice, so we are flying blind for most of this. I followed the tek to what I thought was the letter. After evaporating the naphtha from my previously frozen glass pan, I was left with a white, fluffy substance (although slightly sticky) on the glass that I can only assume is DMT.
We gathered this pull up into a bag, and one night recently attempted various ways of ingesting it. I was interested in all kinds of methods, so I procured the means to insufflate it, and also to make a makeshift vaporizer.
After the nose route seemed to fail, we tried to to vaporize it. The results were barely noticeable, except for the feeling it left in our throats.
Frustrated, we used the last of the spice sandwiched in between cannabis. I was trying to avoid this route, as I've read it's easy to burn the spice and ruin it. However, everyone took a few small hits to try and the general consensus was that it did indeed taste like (the commonly noted) plastic. Also, everyone felt 'something', agreeing it was more than the usual weed 'high'.
I took the last rips, deeper and more than everyone else, to finish it off. Personally, I believe it tasted different than regular cannabis, but not necessarily like plastic or too harsh. I closed my eyes, and in that blackness that one usually sees behind their eyelids I 'thought' I saw the faint dancing fractal patterns. We had Shpongle playing, "When shall I be free?" to be exact, and they seemed to go with the music, from the center of my vision, like going down a tube of fractals.
In any case, it's hard for me to say, personally, if the effect was indeed the spice or something I inserted, with the help of the weed. I have a very low tolerance for it, and the amount I smoked got me really messed up anyway.

So, in any case, I guess I just wanted to ask some questions to help clear up my understanding of this all, and hopefully get it right the next time:

First, the white fluffy, yet kinda sticky, substance I had left in the glass pan should have been smokeable freebase spice, correct? (I'm slightly confused by the difference between 'freebase' and 'acetate', etc.)

Also, when vaporizing, does one want to warm the spice enough to melt, THEN become a thick vapor?

Thank you for taking the time to read this, I'm just really driven to try and do this right and have a good experience.
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#2 Posted : 4/27/2014 1:41:24 PM

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the_aeons_torn wrote:

So, in any case, I guess I just wanted to ask some questions to help clear up my understanding of this all, and hopefully get it right the next time:

First, the white fluffy, yet kinda sticky, substance I had left in the glass pan should have been smokeable freebase spice, correct? (I'm slightly confused by the difference between 'freebase' and 'acetate', etc.)

Also, when vaporizing, does one want to warm the spice enough to melt, THEN become a thick vapor?

Thank you for taking the time to read this, I'm just really driven to try and do this right and have a good experience.


Yes, your white fluffy stuff should be smokeable freebase DMT. The acetate form is a salt form that is more ideal for insufflation and other routes. Freebase is ideal for smoking.

Yes, when you vaporize, the spice will melt first and then become a vapor. When it melts it becomes quite elusive as it will try to run off, so your vaporizer will have to account for this in some way, shape or form so that the DMT liquid will remain close enough to the heat to vaporize.
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#3 Posted : 4/27/2014 1:48:36 PM
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Thank you very much! I really appreciate the help. I suppose we just didn't do enough (I WAS kindof rationing the spice rather small). I will attempt more extractions, and hopefully have some trip reports to contribute to this amazing community.
 
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#4 Posted : 4/27/2014 2:09:52 PM

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It could be that you didn't take enough, or that you did take enough but just inefficiently. Shortcuts won't get you very far with DMT. You should try and refine your vaporization techniques and equipment as much as possible for optimal effect.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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#5 Posted : 4/27/2014 6:04:30 PM
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Our thoughts exactly. Thank you for the help!
 
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