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onesickfreak
#1 Posted : 4/21/2014 4:34:38 PM

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k, with a bit of help (thanks guys) ive got through my first extraction using orions boil n base... so i went to scrape, got the orangish goo people talk about... i hear its good either as is or i can clean it up, but i just want to be sure this looks good first.

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#2 Posted : 4/21/2014 5:10:19 PM

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Looks yummity too me.Thumbs up

Acrb or mhrb or ? How much yield for how much bark? Come on man , we need to know!Wink
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#3 Posted : 4/21/2014 8:50:31 PM

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Looks familiar indeed. My first experience was with some goop like you have pictured. I'm willing to bet that is ACRB because I just did my first extraction with MHRB and the end product is so crystalline compared to ANYTHING I have gotten from ACRB. And I even did a sloppy, rushed STB tek on my MHRB. I spent days, hours, preparing, measuring, and checking every little detail with my ACRB extractions and they just haven't delivered the goods like the MHRB did in just a few hours of work. All that aside, your product looks exactly like my first extraction. I tested a little using the spoon and straw method. It was definitely more potent than my red-brown wax I yielded last ACRB extract. I have yet to try a large dose of the stuff, as I plan on either gel-capping it for pharma or using it for enhanced leaf (along with my wax). Anyways, good job and keep at it.
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#4 Posted : 4/21/2014 11:15:14 PM

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null24 wrote:
Looks yummity too me.Thumbs up

Acrb or mhrb or ? How much yield for how much bark? Come on man , we need to know!Wink


my bad... anar hit the nail on the head, i used 50g ACRB, not sure the yield yet, my scales are crap, but once i get a hold of some good ones ill let ya know
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#5 Posted : 4/21/2014 11:23:28 PM

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onesickfreak wrote:
null24 wrote:
Looks yummity too me.Thumbs up

Acrb or mhrb or ? How much yield for how much bark? Come on man , we need to know!Wink


my bad... anar hit the nail on the head, i used 50g ACRB, not sure the yield yet, my scales are crap, but once i get a hold of some good ones ill let ya know


Its really hard to scale that stuff anyways. As it sits, it seems to become stickier. When you do want to weigh it, weigh the container you will be leaving it in before you transfer it into that container. Then weigh it afterwards. Otherwise you will lose too much product from it sticking to everything it touches. At least that is how mine is. Very unmanagable.
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#6 Posted : 4/26/2014 12:54:17 PM

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Ya man it's fine. Over time will harden. You can speed up the process by playing with it and separating it, the separate pieces will harden a bit faster than one whole. it will get stickier first, but will eventually become a rock like material that you can handle.
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To weigh it, one can also zero the scale with a razorblade on it, scrape the goo onto the blade, the reweigh the blade + goo. Just make sure to use the same razorblade to scrape it as you did to zero the scale, because the weight might vary from blade to blade.
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#8 Posted : 4/29/2014 12:19:35 AM

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Entheogenerator wrote:
To weigh it, one can also zero the scale with a razorblade on it, scrape the goo onto the blade, the reweigh the blade + goo. Just make sure to use the same razorblade to scrape it as you did to zero the scale, because the weight might vary from blade to blade.


This would be the easiest way to measure it without losing much (if any) product.
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#9 Posted : 4/29/2014 9:57:41 AM

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I used to get that with ACRB, until I started doing a thorough defat.
The only other thing I changed, was pulling with nps heated @ around 70C with soup at room temp. Then placing it all in heat bath to heat the rest until 70C.
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#10 Posted : 4/29/2014 10:31:50 PM

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Does doing a re crystallization on that work?
 
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#11 Posted : 4/30/2014 1:04:08 AM

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My first yield was that same yellowy tar goo, it was great, after i refined my methods, mixed the solutions with the right ratio and took my time with the second batch.
When your exited about your first creation you tend to rush out of exitment, at least i did :

Cut up ACRB 250g split it to 125g so i can make 2 small batches (bought the small one to see if i like and im going for a kilo next Big grin )

u can scail down the extract tech by taking what you have dividing that by two if your splitting or thirds, its all amth, but jus make sure the ratios are right, it amkes a huge diff. with purity in the end idk if my last time was a fluke or not but thats what i found, here, if your ext. from ACRB i followed this tech and divided the mesurments into 8. 1kilo/8=125g
any reatio u wanna use u can.
divide all numb by 8 (this is the math i used to make my batch) I was pretty suprized how much it yielded off such a small quanityShocked . Good Luck friend! Journey safe!Thumbs up


NOTE: once again it is common to get up to 20 grams or more of DMT crystals if this is followed correctly a lifetimes worth
MATERIALs:
-1kg Acacia confusa root or trunk bark (preferably root bark)
-naphtha/ petroleum either 1 gallon (make sure it evaporates clean)
-vinegar (white distilled 5% acidity)
- 1 can NAOH/lye/caustic soda 5%
-rock salt/NACL (non iodized)
-glass turkey baster
-gallon mason jar or glass gallon jug MUST BE GLASS (Pyrex is best but other glass will do just be carefull while heating)
-1000ml glass crystallization jar (best if wide mouth mason jar and easy to scrape sides with a razor blade)
-square Pyrex baking pan
-Chemical resistant gloves and goggles (A MUST)
-stove
-2 large pots

OPTIONAL:
PH METER
SEPARATORY FUNNEL
FUNNEL

SAFETY:
-NEVER HEAT NAPHTHA ON AN OPEN FLAME EITHER DOUBLE BOIL OR USE A HOT PLATE
- ALWAYS WEAR YOUR GLOVES AND GOGGLES WHEN WORKING WITH SODIUM HYDROXIDE NO JOKE IT WILL MAKE YOU GO BLIND AND BURN HOLES IN YOUR SKIN, WHEN ADDING LYE TO WATER ALWAYS ADD THE LYE TO THE WATER SLOWLY! SODIUM HYDROXIDE CREATES A EXOTHERMIC REACTION THAT MEANS IT CAUSES HEAT AND CAN CRACK THE GLASS CONTAINER THAT ITS IN


PROCEDURE:
NOTE: you can scale down if you want to the only thing you dont scale down is the amount of time you boil it
SET UP: clean up you work space its best that everything is done in the kitchen
- take 1kg bark and cut it up into the smallest pieces possible use a coffee grinder or blender if possible.
-freeze bark and thaw 3 times in freezer.

PART 1 ACID COOK
the objective of this step is to convert the DMT into its salt form so that the polar solution/water absorbs the DMT easier by using Acetic acid/vinegar converting the DMT into DMT acetate

STEP 1: take 3600ml distilled H2O and add 400 ml vinegar making the PH approx 4, put the 1kg of bark in an appropriate sized pot (pot A)and add the vinegar and water solution. boil for an hour and 45 mins (don't be afraid to boil rigorously, also make sure there is a lid on the pot)

STEP 2: pour the bark and water threw a strainer and transfer the liquid to another pot(pot B). add another fresh 3600 ml water and 400ml vinegar into the first pot (pot A) and boil the bark again for another hour and 45 minutes. while you are doing this boil pot B without a lid to reduce the volume

STEP 3: repeat step 2 two more times you want to do a total of 4 acid boils.

STEP 4: reduce the contents of pot B which in total should be 8000ml to 2500ml

STEP 5: wait for the reduced red liquid in pot B cool down and then pour into your gallon glass jar or jug and place in fridge (make sure the liquid in the jug is completely cooled down before proceeding to the next phase of the procedure.
NOTE: you should now have 2500ml of liquid.

PART 2 BASIFY
in the next part of the procedure you are converting the DMT acetate into its freebase form by making it basic with NAOH/lye so that it will travel from the polar solution (water) into the non polar solution (naphtha)

SAFETY NOTE: for this part put on your safety goggles and chemical resistant gloves remember lye can make you BLIND. i can not emphasize enough to wear the god damn safety gear (excuse the language) but seriously just wear the goggles and gloves if you value your eyesight

STEP 1: weigh out 250 grams of lye

Step 2: SLOWLY add the lye in 25 gram increments every 2 minutes to your red solution inside the gallon jug(in this part you will actually see the freebase alkaloids precipitate) your solution should first turn grey and then turn black. NOTE: the contents of the jar will begin to heat up when you start adding lye, if you add the lye to fast the jar will explode and spray caustic lye everywhere wear your glasses. Proceed to the next phase immediately after all of the lye is added do not take a brake


PART 3 EXTRACTION
the point of part 3 is to extract the DMT from the polar solution into the non polar solution because water and naphtha do not mix together they are the perfect solvent for this procedure.

STEP 1: while the contents of the gallon jug are still warm from the addition of lye (if it has cooled down its ok just double boil it untill it is warm be carefull to not heat it to the point that the jar cracks it just needs to be warm not boiling) measure 1000ml of naphtha and add it to the jar youl notice that it forms to layers the naphtha is on top the water is on the bottom.

STEP 2: shake the contents of the jar vigorously for 1-2 minutes and then let it separate

STEP 3: repeat step 2 10 times (keep the contents warm during this time by occasionally placing the jar in the double boiler DO NOT heat he jar with an open flame as it contains naphtha witch is extremely flammable) during the last shake roll the jar gently to avoid emulsion and then wait 5-10 minutes or until the water and naphtha have completely separated before going to next step.

STEPv4: take your glass turkey baster and carefully suck up the top lair of naphtha and transfer it into your appropriate sized crystallization jar (be careful to not suck up any of the basic water layer if you do there will be impurity's not to mention lye in your final product) dont worry about the little bit that you cant suck up with the baster youl be able to salvage it later or if you want you can suck it up with a glass syringe.

STEP 5.: take the jar of the DMT saturated naphtha and put it into a dark cool area (thats right no freeze precipitation) if you did it right once your jar starts to cool down it will turn milky white wait 12 hours and when you come back youl see that the naphtha is now clear and in the bottom of the jar there is a lot of crystals waiting for you usually 2-4 grams per pull.

STEP 6: take your funnel and place a coffee filter inside it and pour the jar of crystals slowly into it place the coffee filter with all the crystals cacked on it and leave it somewhere to dry. put the naphtha back into the jar and put it into the freezer for 24 hours to precipitate more crystals (the crystals that fall out at room temp are much more pure than the freeze precips when you freeze precip ther is much more plant oils and NMT that come out along with the DMT so if your thinking youl just go strait to freeze precipitating DONT)

STEP 7: repeat step 1-6 except reuse the same naphtha over and over untill no more DMT is being pulled. the reason why you reuse the naphtha is because it works alot better when your solvent is saturated. also after the third pull add 100 grams of rock salt to the gallon jug to make the water more polar this helps pull even more DMT. when your done with all of your pulls you can take your naphtha and evaporate it to yield the DMT NMT bonus


PART 4 ENJOY

if you do decide to disregard the above disclaimer please please take the time to learn the chemistry. making your own DMT can be a huge rewarding experience I believe that it shows the spirit of DMT something about yourself i suggest doins a scaled down version of this teck to see if you and DMT get along if you do it truly can be an amazing thing. DMT i believed has helped me save my life it shows you the beauty in the world and is overall amazing and inspiring words do not do justice. Please do not sell DMT it is so cheap and easy to make and not only that it is an experience that should not be sold it should be shared with the people you love. selling it would just show it greed. also be aware of the vibe that you put into it, while you are making it state your intention say a prayer be humble be respectful and show love and it will show you the same. please be responsible and respectful.

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#12 Posted : 4/30/2014 1:24:58 AM

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My first extraction was with ACRB and I used Josh Isom's tek that the person above me just posted. I got a bunch of crystals with a barely detectable yellowish tint to them. I did a simple re crystallization and the crystals were either full white or clear.

The spice extracted from the freezer precipitation turned out to be goo kind of like what you show, except mine wasn't quite as yellow. Everything that precipitated at room temp was crystal Smile

Maybe try to clean it up with a re crystallization, I know with mine I couldn't get anything but a sub breakthrough until I re crystallized it, now its super potent.
 
 
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