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PogoTheMonkey
#1 Posted : 4/21/2014 3:26:21 AM
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hello everybody! im new here and just thought id share my first extraction and experience here in semi real time.
so over the last week or so i have been gathering supplies for extraction for a 4/20 experience, and for every last thing i bought, shipping was lagged out to the extreme so that is the reason for my super half-ass, cut-corners, jerry-rigged exicution of this tek.

i started lastnight around 9pm, i used josh isoms tek, and taking the above in to account i think it is extremely efficient. i scaled down by 10, because 100g of A. Confusa is what was in my price range right now.

let me really start with what i did wrong.



i used a crockpot. yea.
so from that, my acid bath NEVER boiled, it just got real hot. i only did 3 acid baths, also due to the crockpot/time constraints i did not reduce my final solution from those baths.

i opted not to allow the room temp precipitation because my basement floor is no longer al that cool and didnt want to wasted the time if it didnt work.

i only did my freezer precipitation for about 7 hours because i needed to get it out of the freezer to avoid a long explanation of what i was doing.

so needless to say my end result was not perfect but i do believe i have enough spice for tonight, (we will know soon, T-3:00)



ok so as of now if only done one pull using 100 ml of naphtha for approx 1000ml of extract water. immediately after pulling everything was super gooy but soon moved to waxy then got pretty firm, so i chopped it up and redissolved in about 5ml of acetone and set on the crock pot to dry. it got a little weird here, most of the acetone evaped quickly(15-20 mins), but when i looked across the surface i could still it was wet and my spice was al but invisible. so i left it for an other 2 hours on top of the crock pot, came back a not a danm thing had changed. so i decided to scrape at and see what i got, and that was a yellow oil, if anyone has had THC GOLD OIL it was exactly like that. weird part is after scraped to one spot it dried, back into the hard wax, almost instantly(less then 5mins. so i powdered it again and set it back of the crock to finish drying and when i came back an hour later i had the crystals.





oh and i do plan on doing several more pull and maybe even another acid cook as i do still have everything tightly jared up.

well, thats whats happended so far, i will add a report on use shortly
 

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#2 Posted : 4/21/2014 4:15:22 AM

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Congrats, hope it goes well for you! Please share your experience-
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#3 Posted : 4/21/2014 4:38:57 AM

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Glad it worked out.

Looking forward to the report!!

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#4 Posted : 4/21/2014 8:34:43 PM
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OK so I kinda under dosed a little bit and over blazed it and went to bed. Lol
But it was interesting. At first I tried vapeing my spice but I under loaded the bowl and so I wasn't gt enought of a hit. I got a slight mood elivation, then odd feeling and decided the whole pookie thing could be causing bad vibes so I decided to layer a dose in the bowl in the bong. I killed the lights a took my hit. This one was much more impressive but still under dosed.
The first thing I noticed was the shadow of the tree through the window started to twist and distort and I seemed to be getting some mild trails. Then Evey thing started to viberate and I heard a growing, sort of buzzing noice. for a moment I thought I had dosed to much but upon having that thought things almost instantly mellowed out. I laid back and closed my eyes and had the most intense closed eye visual. Very colorful, pulsing and flowing geometeric patterns. I tripped out on this for about 5-10 mins and it started to fade and then I crashed out. All in all a cool little trip, but clearly falling short of its potential. The thing that struck me the most and what makes me thing I was only barely over a threshold dose is the fact that them was no noticeable mental/perspective effects that couldn't be attributed to the weed.
I think I'm gonna take another crack at it tonight with a lager dose and all at once in the bong instead of broken like the first time.
 
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#5 Posted : 4/26/2014 9:44:17 PM
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ok so ive been busy and hadn't gotten around to doing more pulls, so i went to check out my jar a found out i inadvertently grown some big crystals.



problem here is they grew on top of the basic solution, submerged in naptha. anyone think theres a good way to get them out or should i just warm up jar to redissolve the crystal and do a normal pull?
 
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#6 Posted : 4/27/2014 12:36:05 AM

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Do more pulls in a warm water bath, with emphasis on the "warm". Too much heat and you might pull a bunch of other stuff that is not DMT. It those are DMT crystals, then they will dissolve in the nonpolar solvent. If they are not DMT then you probably don't want them.

I have done many extractions with a crockpot, and it always worked wonderfully.
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#7 Posted : 4/27/2014 1:24:17 AM
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Cool good to hear I really wasn't looking to buy anything else for this for a while except maybe heptane. I should be able to do a pull tonight and well c way I can get.
 
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#8 Posted : 4/27/2014 5:56:17 AM
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ok so warming and shaking did not dissolve the strange xtals... so... not DMT... what the flip is it?
 
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#9 Posted : 4/27/2014 6:06:57 AM

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PogoTheMonkey wrote:
ok so warming and shaking did not dissolve the strange xtals... so... not DMT... what the flip is it?

Did you add more nonpolar solvent before warming and shaking it? If it's not DMT it is probably lye.
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#10 Posted : 4/27/2014 6:51:48 AM
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I reused the nps from my first pull. I used lqb grade sodium hydroxide, 25g to basify approx 1500ml of root bark water. Why would it come out of solution and not re dissolve?
BTW I'm not saying ur wrong I just don't gt it, been a while since high school chemistry.
 
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#11 Posted : 4/27/2014 12:33:58 PM

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PogoTheMonkey wrote:
I reused the nps from my first pull. I used lqb grade sodium hydroxide, 25g to basify approx 1500ml of root bark water. Why would it come out of solution and not re dissolve?
BTW I'm not saying ur wrong I just don't gt it, been a while since high school chemistry.

This I'm not sure of. It would make sense if the aqueous solution had been saturated with lye when it was at a higher temperature, and then some of it precipitated as it cooled. But 25g NaOH dissolved in 1500 mL is far from a saturated solution... I remember another thread where someone had crystals grow exactly the way yours did. They scooped one out with a spoon and found it was soluble in water. I'm not sure that they investigated it any further, but that alone would demonstrate to me that the crystals were probably lye.

Perhaps you ought to do the same, except measure the pH of the new water before and after dissolving the crystals. If the pH rises significantly when the crystals are dissolved, it is probably safe to assume that they are lye crystals.
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#12 Posted : 4/27/2014 10:00:43 PM
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Sounds like a good plan. If they grow back I will try that but the broke up (but did not dissolve) during heating and shaking. I should have thought of that before meeting with it but was impatient and wanted to do another pull Smile
And I guess that worked out well because I did the room temp precipitation and got some nice white crystals. But I think IMA doing a re-x to make sure its actually spice and not lye. lol.
 
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PogoTheMonkey wrote:
Sounds like a good plan. If they grow back I will try that but the broke up (but did not dissolve) during heating and shaking. I should have thought of that before meeting with it but was impatient and wanted to do another pull Smile
And I guess that worked out well because I did the room temp precipitation and got some nice white crystals. But I think IMA doing a re-x to make sure its actually spice and not lye. lol.

If it dissolved in the nonpolar solvent, it is definitely not lye.

I would recommend freeze precipitating after precipitating at room temperature. From my understanding, room-temp. precip. will leave a fair amount of DMT in the solvent.
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#14 Posted : 4/27/2014 11:38:15 PM
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Oh yea for sure. I am doing the freezer precip now.
 
 
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