Hey,
I am wondering if any of you have experienced something similar, in regards to getting little to no effects from a batch of changa.


I finally got around to being able to make some changa, using 91 % IPA, 30 mg of fluffy white spice, and 15 mg of Passionflower/15 mg of Calea Zacatechichi.

It took around 4 days for the alcohol to evaporate, and I decided late this morning to give it a go. It seemed like a very small amount, but after putting it into a bubbler, and layering some mullein on top, the bowl looked pretty plentiful. I tried to just light the mullein, but the bowl began to burn after my second attempt. I felt mildly contemplative, and could taste what many describe as "burnt plastic," but nothing much else was happening.

Being a bit agitated, I put a few crumbs (and I mean a few as in maybe 4) of spice in the bowl, after cleaning out the ashes, and covered it with passionflower. Again, I tried to "kiss" the herbs on top, and it seemed to work a bit better, but in any case the spice was certainly lit, and again I tasted the burnt plastic. This time, however I felt a very strange wave of giddiness come over me, and started to see faces moving around on the carpet and what not.

So the problem doesn't lie with the spice..

Next time I do this I would really like to go to hyperspace. I'm debating as to whether or not I should take the pure crystal route and get a little machine, or give changa another try. Is it possible I messed up the changa in the process of making it? It seems like a straightforward enough process. Maybe I just need to make a bigger amount of it.

So you want to go to hyperspace?

Here is what I recommend as I have done this more times than I can count.

Pack your bubbler with changa. A nice hefty amount.

Put crystal n,n- on top of this. A nice hefty amount.

Let the flame melt the crystal onto the changa. Vape it / smoke it taking large hits and hold them in like 20 seconds. Meditation before hand makes this easier.

Do your best to clear the whole bowl but most likely you won't be able to. You will be gone. Put the bubbler down when reality begins to fold and welcome to hyperspace.

If there's anything left you can just smoke it later. The very bottom is the most potent part as its where all the melted spice is. Try to get it. If not, you are already there.

If you prepared only this amount in a batch, it is very likely that half of the dmt is left as a thin coating on the walls of the vessel you used for mixing and evaporating. This is know as "mechanical loss". To offset these almost inevitable losses, make bigger batches.

Thanks!
I tried to scrape a lot of the residue out of the glass I used for mixing, but it was near impossible to get every last bit of it.

I greatly appreciate both pieces of advice. I will certainly follow either on my next adventure.

Also, meditation before hand is a great idea. I was considering doing that today but just wanted to try out the changa very badly, and felt I was too restless to get into a relaxed mind state. I will shoot for a morning meditation with an early afternoon rocket trip next time.

I agree with pitubo, you need to make a bigger batch.
Also get a fan on the Changa, Alcohol stew . You can evaporate it off rapidly. Just ventilate the room.