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First Syrian Rue and Acacia confusa experience Options
 
Animystic
#1 Posted : 4/19/2014 7:43:32 PM

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First Syrian Rue and Acacia confusa experience:

Syrian Rue: 3g
Acacia confusa: 5g
Lemon Balm Tea: 1g

Preparation:

Both Rue seeds and confusa root bark were simmered separately in distilled water with generous amounts of lemon juice. After three 2-hour washes, brews were reduced to ~80mL and placed in the refrigerator for later use.

Removal of tannins in A. confusa was attempted by way of an egg white tek. Root bark brew was diluted with distilled water and heated with one egg white stirred into the brew. After straining the brew through a t-shirt and some coffee filters, substantial floating particles of egg still remained. After additional filtering with coffee filters, particles still remained. Brew was reduced back to ~80mL and foamy egg material was skimmed off of simmering brew. A better tek for removal of tannins will be needed in the future. Or perhaps skip the removal of tannins.

Lemon balm tea was steeped in boiling distilled water for 15 min.

Setting:

I constructed an “altar” consisting of three candles, incense, and several artifacts on a small table. These artifacts all have some meaning to me, the majority being interesting stones I’ve found over the years. All lights in the house were turned off except the bathroom lamp (in case of purging). I spread out blankets and pillows on the floor in front of the altar and had a purge bucket and water handy. Very soft meditation music played on my stereo.

Imbibing:

I drank the Syrian Rue brew like a double shot of whiskey and chased it with half of the Lemon Balm tea. Brew was bitter and very sour from the lemon juice used during extraction. I added the Lemon Balm tea to the process because I have read on the forum that it eases the nausea caused by the Syrian Rue.

I then took a bath with the wonderful aromas of Tea Tree oil and meditated.

After 40 minutes, I drank the A. confusa brew in several gulps, leaving the settled egg material in the bottom. I chased this sour, but not unpleasant brew with the rest of the Lemon Balm tea. I then laid down in front of the altar with my dog, closed my eyes, and waited…

Experience:
After 20-30 minutes, I felt a “head change” that has been described by others as a drunk feeling. To me it felt more like being extremely sleepy, i.e. heavy eyelids and a drained feeling, but with complete clarity at the same time. I felt euphoric and happy. At this point my doubts about whether I would have an experience with this dosage were dispelled. Something was happening.

I decided to sit up and light some incense on the altar. As soon as the light of the candles hit my eyes, a wonderful visual of waving light emanated from everything on the table and the blinds on the wall behind it. When I moved my head, these “waves of energy” sprang from objects. It looked like visual representations of sound waves I’ve seen in movies and TV. They acted like normal tracers because I couldn’t see the waves unless some movement was involved, but it was like the tracer had a tracer had a tracer, etc. - making waves.

I lay back down and closed my eyes to investigate any closed-eye visuals. These were very faint, but discernable circles within circles, forming long winding tunnels.

Then the greatest thing happened. I felt a tingle in the middle of my forehead and I knew my third eye was being activated. I concentrated on that spot and the tingling became more pronounced. Finally, I felt what I can only describe as a fingertip pressing on the middle of my forehead and then release. After that the tingling stopped.

The peak lasted ~2hrs and involved a lot of introspection that I need not go into here. Visuals remained ~3 more hours during come down. During the come down I wrote a great song with my acoustic guitar. At the 5-hour mark of the trip, I went to sleep with no problem and woke refreshed, with my song still playing in my head.

Conclusion/Notables:

I experienced nothing negative during this trip. No nausea, diarrhea, or anything bad psychologically. I even had a nice solid bowel movement on the come down!Wink I am uncertain if this is because of the Lemon Balm or tannin removal. My only meal that day was nachos with taco meat and plenty of jalapeños. Seems like this would cause problems, but none arose.

I have only seen one person on this forum claim that natural MAOI’s are safe to use with pretty much any food. They backed this up with good sources so I tested this for myself. Early in the come down I drank 2 beers and had some noodles with soy sauce. Both of these are supposed to be “no-no’s” and I didn’t feel any adverse side effects. I am convinced that pharmaceutical MAOI’s are the only kinds that require a special diet. However, drug interactions with natural MAOI’s are a definite reality. Stay away from the allergy medicine!! And don’t eat anything that might worry you and ruin the trip.

Overall, this trip was like a good, heavy mushroom trip, but less comical and more introspective. I intend to try a heavier dose next time, probably 7 grams of A. confusa. I am in love with this plant and the experience it provides!!












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starway6
#2 Posted : 4/19/2014 9:01:53 PM

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Thanks for your report!
It would be interesting to know how cappi would go with this instead of rue...!
 
Sabnock
#3 Posted : 4/19/2014 10:07:17 PM
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Hey Animystic, good to hear about your experience. Might i make a couple suggestions though?

With the Lemon Balm, try going up 3 or 4 grams, as i think that's where it get's really interesting. I'm the one whose been raving about the Lemon Balm added with Ayahuasca, and in my earlier days i tried many different ratios of Lemon Balm tea, ranging from 1 gram to 15 grams. 1 gram was mild, 3 to 4 grams was just right, and 10 to 15 grams i think may have been too much. As far as Lemon Balm relieving nausea, in my early experimentations with it, it did relieve some nausea and pretty much all stomach bloating, but i've since learned that Lemon Balm def. won't get rid of all the nausea, which is why i mainly use Cannabis for Ayahuasca-caused nausea but am going to try investigating other avenues of nausea relief sometime soon hopefully. As for what i know the Lemon Balm can do, i've determined that it can reduce anxiety and kinda calm the experience without negatively effecting/altering the experience, and by doing so it can drastically reduce the chances of a difficult experience/bad trip. The Lemon Balm really seems to synergize quite well with Ayahuasca, and i bet it would go absolutely beautifully with the Caapi vine, as it also does with the Rue seed. And one more thing, i think it would be better to steep the Lemon Balm in hot water in a glass cup with something covering the top, as to avoid evaporation of volatile oils, 15 to 20 minutes of steeping, filter out the plant material, and drink as is or sweeten it.

Now about the egg white thing, most people usually remove the tannins from a brew containing multiple doses. If using say, 50 to 100 grams of Acacia, you make sure the Acacia brew is only warm enough for a little bit of steam to be coming off the brew, and then toss in 2 to 3 egg whites, stir them in and then you boil (i even stir while boiling as to make sure nothing burns). After boiling the brew/egg whites, filter the brew and then reduce the brew down to the desired amount. Put the brew in the freezer, as really cold temps will precipitate out the remaining egg as well as any remaining sediment. When it's frozen, thaw the brew, filter it and put it back in the freezer. Once frozen again, thaw it and pour the tea away from the sediment in the bottom and stop pouring when the sediment tries to come up. The freeze, thaw and pour/filter method, atleast ime, is required a few more times on the remaining liquid with sediment in order to get 100% of the tea with no sediment, and while it does take about 3 to 4 days (for me anyways) to make a clean tea like that, it's a really good option imo if brewing multiple doses. However for individual doses, one egg white should do the trick, and remember to freeze it at least once, but try for two freezes, and it should be fine.

Also, 5 grams of Acacia is alright, but try for maybe 10, that for me is when things really started to get interesting. 3 to 4 grams is a good dose of Rue, that's what i stick with if using Rue except i don't make Rue tea i make Rue capsules with the ground Rue seed, these days though i prefer full spectrum Rue extract which i can simply load up into one capsule, it's awesome. And like i said previously 3 to 4 grams of Lemon Balm is a pretty good dose, 1 to 2 grams is alright (especially if you have potent Lemon Balm) but 3 to 4 grams to me seemed to be where it's at. Also about the Lemon Balm, i've never used fresh leaves, i've only used dried, and so if anyone tries fresh leaves, work around with the dose and report back Smile

Once again Animystic, thanks for the experience report and thank you for trying the Lemon Balm tea with it.
 
Animystic
#4 Posted : 4/19/2014 10:55:17 PM

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Thanks for the advice, Sabnock!

Regarding the Lemon Balm: I actually just used a commercial, 1 gram tea bag and I did steep it covered for 15 minutes. It's interesting that you feel the Lemon Balm has a synergy with the Acacia and might do more than just ease nausea. I will definitely try throwing 3-4 tea bags in the next batch and see what happens!

Thank you for clearing up the egg white tek. I knew something was fishy when I couldn't get rid of the nasty egg bits floating in my precious Acacia. I want to experiment with single doses until I find the right amounts, so I will definitely be using one egg white and freeze/thawing at least twice. When I find the sweet spot dosage wise I will make a larger batch and use your method for removing tannins as well.

I will try the 10 gram dose of Acacia next time. I started with 5g as a way to get my feet wet. I had never experimented with DMT before this and I think my decision was wise. I feel ready to go deeper at this point. I will keep my Rue dosage the same, and I really don't mind slamming a quick shot of it so I'll use the same simple extraction/brewing method.

I really appreciate your guidance in these matters! Cheers!!
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Sabnock
#5 Posted : 4/20/2014 12:43:30 AM
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No problem mate, happy i could help Smile
 
 
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