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Bonné
#1 Posted : 4/15/2014 4:05:59 PM

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Hello folks Smile

I have, with 4 friends, agreed to visit my grandmother's cottage, along with my supply of psychedelics.
We'll be up there from Thursday to Sunday, so we plan to trip from Thursday to Saturday and then get a lot of sleep on Sunday Smile

I will bring some Salvia and Changa with us, but I only expect 2 of us to be interested in the Changa. The others are not really fond of either, but would probably agree to a hit of dried Salvia leaves.
I am unsure whether we'll be smoking these while we're on another substance, as that probably depends a lot on the set and setting. But I'll definitely have some Changa when we're not tripping too hard.
Apart from those, each of us will be administered 2C-E (20-25mg each), 25i-Nbome (2-3mg each) and 4-ACO-DMT (50-60mg each, it's really impotent for some reason)
My friends will bring along some MDMA and Alcohol, how would these mix with the rest of the drug arsenal?

I would never personally touch the alcohol, but I've read that low amounts may actually act as a vasodialator, which wouldn't be too bad on 2C-E and 25i, would it?
Most of us aren't really interested in the MDMA, as 4 of us have been on a binge before, so we'd probably be better without. But in case our minds change completely when in the situation, should we be worried? What I've been most worried about was actually that MDMA was brought along, opening the possibility for combinations.

We will obviously listen carefully to our body and minds, so that none of us ends up hospitalized, but do you see any complications that we should be aware of in the coming scenario?

Thanks a lot in advance Smile
 

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3rdI
#2 Posted : 4/15/2014 4:10:16 PM

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hello Bonné

id avoid Changa with a few of them and stick with plain DMT or infused leaf, definitely with the MDMA, you might get away with it but in my world it isn't really worth the risk.

I hope you have a good time, it sounds like you willThumbs up
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Bonné
#3 Posted : 4/15/2014 5:02:36 PM

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3rdI wrote:
hello Bonné

id avoid Changa with a few of them and stick with plain DMT or infused leaf, definitely with the MDMA, you might get away with it but in my world it isn't really worth the risk.

I hope you have a good time, it sounds like you willThumbs up

As stupid as it may sound, I had actually completely forgotten the MAOI component of Changa. Would it be risky to smoke it after the trip is over and we're completely back to baseline, or should I simply leave it at home?

EDIT: I just read a quote from the Nexus on the subject of a guy who smoked enhanced leaf/changa on 25i-nbome and experienced severe headaches and migraines.
So that's not going to happen Smile
 
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#4 Posted : 4/16/2014 12:00:36 PM

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Let's just keep it simple and safe, and say that if you plan on doing the changa at any point, don't bother with taking the MDMA at all.
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