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livinglife
#1 Posted : 4/10/2014 10:32:41 PM

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So, for a while ago I got some bark delivered to me and it went fine, but the stuff was not the stuff I ordered, I got hustled, it was something else. So, I ordered some new stuff from another source, and I wondered, why is it taking so long time. And it got clear one day.
I go a call from the Police. I had to meet up asap to a talk.

I came, they showed me the bag of bark (mimosa) and asked, What is your intention with this?

At this moment I knew I was kinda fucked, and things like "fuck, I have disappointed the culture around this, I screwed it up". was swinging in my head.

I of course tried to get myself out of it, I told the police women that this was bark from a tree that you can make a skin cream of, and I didn't know it was illegal to order.

She mumbled. Well, it says it contains a substance named DMT, what a coincident huh? are you sure? We really want to take a pee test on you sir.

Shit I thought, she really have me now, because last night I consumed amphetamine ( My first time ever), benzo and thc. Don't blame me guys, I'm done with that shit for now, I had a huge drug addiction problem that I've recently conquered.

But the timing was just to damn perfect, it was 2 months since I ordered the bark, and of course now was the time. I had no idea what it could be.

I took a pee test, it was positive for everything I mentioned. God damn it I thought, now it's just stupid to lie myself out of this.

She replied: Amphetamine, benzodiazepiner and THC. Well, and you wanted to make cream?

She had me, it was no point to lie anymore.

So I told here what my intentions was, I told here that this was not a recreational drug, this was a medicine that have been used for many many years, I told here so much about this stuff that she was chocked. She didn't understand the half of it, but respected my view on this plant.

Just blame me, but my intentions told me that this was best to do,,,

And then, it went "okey", she told me that they was supposed to check my house for stuff and so on, but since I was so honest they dropped it. They "closed" the case and made a compromise with me, I need to pee every month for 2 years. If it's positive for any substance I get a punishment, (pay off ore prison).

I must say, this escalated fast, my first time with the law and it ended like this. All I wanted was to experience this substance, I have many trips behind me with Psilocybin, and it has given me a lot of help. I'm an open minded humble person that wouldn't hurt a fly.

FYI, I'm from Norway.

What else could I do? Any tips? ..I feel stupid
 

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#2 Posted : 4/10/2014 10:44:14 PM

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You should never say anything to the police. Nothing at all. Nor should you have given them a pee sample for them to test. I dont know if you have the ability to do those things in Norway, but the less the police know, the better off you are. The only reason they talk to you is because they NEED information. If you don't give it to them then they won't have any.
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#3 Posted : 4/10/2014 10:44:58 PM

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When did all this occur?

Stay clean, and in the future, don't provide incriminating statements against yourself.

If they choose to not prosecute you, you will be very lucky.

Did you ever get to try DMT?
 
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#4 Posted : 4/10/2014 10:48:04 PM

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livinglife wrote:


Shit I thought, she really have me now, because last night I consumed amphetamine ( My first time ever), benzo and thc. Don't blame me guys, I'm done with that shit for now, I had a huge drug addiction problem that I've recently conquered.




What a wonderfully contradictory sentence! Usually, those who have "conquered" drugs don't do meth. Just sayin'.

Sorry you got busted, but you shouldn't have answered the phone, and you shouldn't have gone willingly to meet the police without a lawyer.


Tell the police your name, show them your ID, BUT TELL THEM NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING WITHOUT A LAWYER. Sorry for the caps, but the nail needs to be driven home.
Fear, belief, love phenomena that determined the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish. We cross and recross our old paths like figure skaters; our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.
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#5 Posted : 4/10/2014 10:51:44 PM

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Du57mi73 wrote:
You should never say anything to the police. Nothing at all. Nor should you have given them a pee sample for them to test. I dont know if you have the ability to do those things in Norway, but the less the police know, the better off you are. The only reason they talk to you is because they NEED information. If you don't give it to them then they won't have any.


They have the power to do that here, If I have refused they would definitely reacted to my decision in a hostile way.(and I know one of the officers very well, he is a father to a friend of mine) I understand what you mean about the information, I have kinda found it out now, I have been meeting the women later after this and she asks me all this questions about dealing, and names, and how much THC I used to buy. Then I really understood it all, she are trolling me to get information, and I got very pissed. I don't tell here a shit, but maybe I could handled the first encounter with them different, but as I said. They had me I felt,,,
 
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#6 Posted : 4/10/2014 10:54:27 PM

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I'm not familiar with the rights and obligations you have in Norway when dealing with LEO but at least here in Finland your best bet is to keep your mouth shut, the less you tell them the less they can use against you. I truly hope everything turns out for the best and that at least you've learned a valuable lesson.
"Do more of what makes you happy"
 
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#7 Posted : 4/10/2014 10:55:06 PM

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112233 wrote:
livinglife wrote:


Shit I thought, she really have me now, because last night I consumed amphetamine ( My first time ever), benzo and thc. Don't blame me guys, I'm done with that shit for now, I had a huge drug addiction problem that I've recently conquered.




What a wonderfully contradictory sentence! Usually, those who have "conquered" drugs don't do meth. Just sayin'.

Sorry you got busted, but you shouldn't have answered the phone, and you shouldn't have gone willingly to meet the police without a lawyer.


Tell the police your name, show them your ID, BUT TELL THEM NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING WITHOUT A LAWYER. Sorry for the caps, but the nail needs to be driven home.


Just wanted to share it, I failed, I was a pussy, you name it, I shared this to get some replies to my decision I made. To learn on my mistakes. I don't refuse it. I have been clean since January when this happened btw.
 
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#8 Posted : 4/10/2014 10:59:07 PM

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Stay clean then. Theres no reason to risk jail time just to get high. Just wait out your 2 years and do what you gotta do.
"I am cursed by the blossoming knowledge of my feminine ideal and she looks suspiciously like you."

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#9 Posted : 4/10/2014 11:01:42 PM

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Du57mi73 wrote:
Stay clean then. Theres no reason to risk jail time just to get high. Just wait out your 2 years and do what you gotta do.


Agreed. here is a backup plan that works (though I would stay clean anyway) http://quickfixurine.com/
 
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#10 Posted : 4/10/2014 11:03:52 PM

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livinglife wrote:
112233 wrote:
livinglife wrote:


Shit I thought, she really have me now, because last night I consumed amphetamine ( My first time ever), benzo and thc. Don't blame me guys, I'm done with that shit for now, I had a huge drug addiction problem that I've recently conquered.




What a wonderfully contradictory sentence! Usually, those who have "conquered" drugs don't do meth. Just sayin'.

Sorry you got busted, but you shouldn't have answered the phone, and you shouldn't have gone willingly to meet the police without a lawyer.


Tell the police your name, show them your ID, BUT TELL THEM NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING WITHOUT A LAWYER. Sorry for the caps, but the nail needs to be driven home.


Just wanted to share it, I failed, I was a pussy, you name it, I shared this to get some replies to my decision I made. To learn on my mistakes. I don't refuse it. I have been clean since January when this happened btw.


Please don't think I am judging you: do what you feel, use what substance you feel drawn to until it no longer serves your higher purpose, whatever that may be, just be honest about it (which you were, but the "conquering" will have to be a title earned much later).

Good luck, and keep us posted, I wish you all the best.
Fear, belief, love phenomena that determined the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish. We cross and recross our old paths like figure skaters; our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.
---David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
 
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#11 Posted : 4/10/2014 11:04:16 PM

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Du57mi73 wrote:
Stay clean then. Theres no reason to risk jail time just to get high. Just wait out your 2 years and do what you gotta do.


That is my intention. I really hope you didn't change the view you had on me, because I talked to you a while ago when I was producing my first batch with the wrong substance and you gave me some nice advice and so on. As Jarppi said, I have learned a valuable lesson.
 
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#12 Posted : 4/10/2014 11:07:30 PM

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112233 wrote:
livinglife wrote:
112233 wrote:
livinglife wrote:


Shit I thought, she really have me now, because last night I consumed amphetamine ( My first time ever), benzo and thc. Don't blame me guys, I'm done with that shit for now, I had a huge drug addiction problem that I've recently conquered.




What a wonderfully contradictory sentence! Usually, those who have "conquered" drugs don't do meth. Just sayin'.

Sorry you got busted, but you shouldn't have answered the phone, and you shouldn't have gone willingly to meet the police without a lawyer.


Tell the police your name, show them your ID, BUT TELL THEM NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING WITHOUT A LAWYER. Sorry for the caps, but the nail needs to be driven home.


Just wanted to share it, I failed, I was a pussy, you name it, I shared this to get some replies to my decision I made. To learn on my mistakes. I don't refuse it. I have been clean since January when this happened btw.


Please don't think I am judging you: do what you feel, use what substance you feel drawn to until it no longer serves your higher purpose, whatever that may be, just be honest about it (which you were, but the "conquering" will have to be a title earned much later).

Good luck, and keep us posted, I wish you all the best.


Thank you for that honest reply, I don't judge you 112233. I'm just sharing my thought's.
 
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112233 wrote:
livinglife wrote:


Shit I thought, she really have me now, because last night I consumed amphetamine ( My first time ever), benzo and thc. Don't blame me guys, I'm done with that shit for now, I had a huge drug addiction problem that I've recently conquered.




What a wonderfully contradictory sentence! Usually, those who have "conquered" drugs don't do meth. Just sayin'.

Amphetamine and methamphetamine are quite different beasts, as for instance are DMT and 5MeO-DMT.
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#14 Posted : 4/10/2014 11:53:10 PM

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Lay off the weed, speed and pills for two years, seriously. It will not be easy at times, you'll have to learn to come to terms with cravings, escapism, emotional distress and many other pitfalls of the contemporary human condition.

Make this your project.

If you succeed, the reward is a massive increase in maturity, personal and social functionality and joy of life.

Eventually in two or more years time, if you are still motivated towards DMT, you will have a much better personal basis of endeavour, both personally and socially.

And hopefully, you'll also have a much better understanding of the law, it's servants and how to deal with them.

Stories about medicine for the skin or the soul just sound so much more convincing when they come from the mouth of an "upstanding citizen" who presents no obvious immediate threat to the local consensus about moral order than from a kid with substance issues. That may sound crude and unjust, but it seems to be way things go in the "normal" world. It's better to be above it than against it. And if you must be against it, also be above it.

Perhaps it helps your case if you seek help from a doctor or some other care professional in dealing with the substance issues. You need not submit to them, just work with them and establish a working relation. Perhaps there is even some actual practical value for you in there too. In any case, you will be cozying up to authorities that can then vouch for you in case you get in trouble with authorities that want to give you a hard time. You would not be alone against the system anymore, that is the idea.
 
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#15 Posted : 4/11/2014 12:16:00 AM

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pitubo wrote:
Lay off the weed, speed and pills for two years, seriously. It will not be easy at times, you'll have to learn to come to terms with cravings, escapism, emotional distress and many other pitfalls of the contemporary human condition.

Make this your project.

If you succeed, the reward is a massive increase in maturity, personal and social functionality and joy of life.

Eventually in two or more years time, if you are still motivated towards DMT, you will have a much better personal basis of endeavour, both personally and socially.

And hopefully, you'll also have a much better understanding of the law, it's servants and how to deal with them.

Stories about medicine for the skin or the soul just sound so much more convincing when they come from the mouth of an "upstanding citizen" who presents no obvious immediate threat to the local consensus about moral order than from a kid with substance issues. That may sound crude and unjust, but it seems to be way things go in the "normal" world. It's better to be above it than against it. And if you must be against it, also be above it.

Perhaps it helps your case if you seek help from a doctor or some other care professional in dealing with the substance issues. You need not submit to them, just work with them and establish a working relation. Perhaps there is even some actual practical value for you in there too. In any case, you will be cozying up to authorities that can then vouch for you in case you get in trouble with authorities that want to give you a hard time. You would not be alone against the system anymore, that is the idea.


The thing is, I'm not a pill user nor amphetamine user, I just stumbled over it that night. I literally dislike this substances very much, and that night I was weak and wanted to escape. If I haven't drunk those 6 beers and got the need to get higher that night I would showed up sober to the police. Alcohol is the devil wine. But I don't blame it, I blame my behaviour.

But as you are mentioning, I have to agree. I have started the sober journey and things are changing a lot in my life, personal growth and so on. I really enjoy this state, and I confront myself with the pain I feel instead of escaping from it. We do mistakes and we learn.

When I talked with the police I had my downturn on everything, my mind was screwed, it was an ugly timing.

Thank you for your thoughts on this, I highly appreciate it
 
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#16 Posted : 4/11/2014 12:18:21 AM

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112233 wrote:
livinglife wrote:


Shit I thought, she really have me now, because last night I consumed amphetamine ( My first time ever), benzo and thc. Don't blame me guys, I'm done with that shit for now, I had a huge drug addiction problem that I've recently conquered.




What a wonderfully contradictory sentence! Usually, those who have "conquered" drugs don't do meth. Just sayin'.

Amphetamine and methamphetamine are quite different beasts, as for instance are DMT and 5MeO-DMT.



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---David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
 
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livinglife wrote:

But as you are mentioning, I have to agree. I have started the sober journey and things are changing a lot in my life, personal growth and so on. I really enjoy this state, and I confront myself with the pain I feel instead of escaping from it. We do mistakes and we learn.


One thing I forgot to mention:

Natural high is the best high there is

I have learnt a few things from psychedelics, but this by far is the best one.

May you stumble into a lifetime supply of this wonder drug.
 
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112233 wrote:
d*l*b wrote:
112233 wrote:
livinglife wrote:


Shit I thought, she really have me now, because last night I consumed amphetamine ( My first time ever), benzo and thc. Don't blame me guys, I'm done with that shit for now, I had a huge drug addiction problem that I've recently conquered.




What a wonderfully contradictory sentence! Usually, those who have "conquered" drugs don't do meth. Just sayin'.

Amphetamine and methamphetamine are quite different beasts, as for instance are DMT and 5MeO-DMT.



Tomato Tomawtoe


Have you ever taken speed?
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Redguard wrote:
112233 wrote:
d*l*b wrote:
112233 wrote:
livinglife wrote:


Shit I thought, she really have me now, because last night I consumed amphetamine ( My first time ever), benzo and thc. Don't blame me guys, I'm done with that shit for now, I had a huge drug addiction problem that I've recently conquered.




What a wonderfully contradictory sentence! Usually, those who have "conquered" drugs don't do meth. Just sayin'.

Amphetamine and methamphetamine are quite different beasts, as for instance are DMT and 5MeO-DMT.



Tomato Tomawtoe


Have you ever taken speed?


I've smoked glass-grade crystal meth twice, toked two hits of crack, snorted mountains of cocaine and crank. What's your point?
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---David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
 
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livinglife wrote:
Any tips? ..I feel stupid


cosmicspore wrote:
here is a backup plan that works (though I would stay clean anyway)


Another backup plan that has worked for me in the past is to collect the urine of someone who doesn"t take drugs, put it in a little bottle, pre-heat it in a warm bath and tape it under your arm or between your buttocks. This will maintain it at the right temperature. All the piss tests that i have undertaken have had temperature gauges stuck to the side of the test kits in order to make sure that you are giving fresh piss that comes out at body temperature.
Choose your urine donor wisely (maybe a small drug free child, if you can find one). I was once given some urine by my sisters boyfriend and it tested positive for opiates.

Obviously my initial advice, like the others, would be to try and stay clean.
 
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