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There is possibility that dmt makes sense Options
 
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#1 Posted : 4/11/2013 9:44:49 PM
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Francis Crick the nobel prize winner for DNA research, believed that it wasn't an accident that there is a life on this planet long story short 2 minutes: Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl8bRRxNVGA

What i understood from this video is that DNA can be used as storage device, just as computer hard drive. But instead of couple shitty gigabytes it could storage whole internet x 1000000000000 times information. Scientists know about 2 percents of human dna.

What if you actually smoke DMT and access your hard-drive disk which contains universe information inside of you? Somehow after my experience with this mind altering substance this crazy crazy theory makes sense to me. What do you think? It explains creativity phenomena, mind phenomena we just pick stuff which is already storaged deep inside of our bodies and as a result we will be picking out more and more complex things out of us, until we will be enough evolved to contact with other worldy conciuosness?
 

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#2 Posted : 4/11/2013 10:05:41 PM

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I've heard this theory before when talking about ayahuasca. I think I read it in a really fun book called "the stargate conspiracy", though I'm not sure. The idea was more though that we could communicate with the DNA rather than simply access it, though I guess it's more or less the same thing.

It's certainly an interesting idea, but there's no way to investigate this at the moment. Personally I find my DMT experiences are so weird that if I'm really accessing ancient stored info from my DNA I surely don't know how to decode it...
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#4 Posted : 4/11/2013 10:21:53 PM
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Yeah definitely, DMT the most bizzare experience, yet still part of the life. Just wondering what meaning might be if there is meaning at all.
 
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#5 Posted : 4/12/2013 2:21:13 AM

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eeee wrote:


What if you actually smoke DMT and access your hard-drive disk which contains universe information inside of you? Somehow after my experience with this mind altering substance this crazy crazy theory makes sense to me. What do you think? It explains creativity phenomena, mind phenomena we just pick stuff which is already storaged deep inside of our bodies and as a result we will be picking out more and more complex things out of us, until we will be enough evolved to contact with other worldy conciuosness?


I've had DMT experiences where it felt like I was "restitching" my DNA. I don't think "junk DMA" is junk at all, that at one point humans had access to all the information and abilities stored in the DNA, then for whatever reason (and I have my ideas on this but I won't get into them just yet), the original human was "broken down" into what we are today. There is talk in various circles that the original human had 12 strands of DNA, which was then broken down to two strands, and that the "junk DNA" are the remnants of the original code sequence. Naturally, this is just talk, and I have no source for you, but it's an interesting idea, I think. "Seek the kingdom within you, and you will find the kingdom everywhere." --AAM
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#6 Posted : 4/12/2013 9:31:27 AM

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eeee wrote:
Francis Crick the nobel prize winner for DNA research, believed that it wasn't an accident that there is a life on this planet long story short 2 minutes: Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl8bRRxNVGA

What i understood from this video is that DNA can be used as storage device, just as computer hard drive. But instead of couple shitty gigabytes it could storage whole internet x 1000000000000 times information. Scientists know about 2 percents of human dna.


well yes this i do understand and have read this information before , seems only logical that a lot of info will be required to create a human or any other living organism , and what better way for nature to store all that info , intelligent design i guess perhaps maybe ....we really don't know all that yet its amazing that the dna is capable of producing a living organism , a simple code embedded into the vary fabric of life hear on earth , simple changes in the code reveal/create different life forms all together , just incredibly advanced biological technology i guess is what the dna is

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What if you actually smoke DMT and access your hard-drive disk which contains universe information inside of you? Somehow after my experience with this mind altering substance this crazy crazy theory makes sense to me. What do you think? It explains creativity phenomena, mind phenomena we just pick stuff which is already storaged deep inside of our bodies and as a result we will be picking out more and more complex things out of us, until we will be enough evolved to contact with other worldy conciuosness?


sounds nice , yet its difficult be sure about these things ,
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Bringing back an old thread because this is so fun to meditate on. I would love to hear other peoples' opinions on this.

I love that quote by Crick (paraphrased): DNA being assembled randomly from a primordial soup of chemicals is about as likely as a jumbo jet being assembled by a hurricane."

 
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Pretty much nail-on-head at 2:40...But watch the whole thing because it provides the context.




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#9 Posted : 4/8/2014 10:32:12 PM

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If you like to meditate on this, and you haven't read Jeremy Narby's "The Cosmic Serpent", you would enjoy it. This might be the ayahuasca reference Enoon was talking about.

Narby is a materialistic anthropologist who spends a few years living among tribes in the Amazon. One day he finally drinks ayahuasca, and the experience kicks his paradigm square in the nuts. The two serpents he sees in his visions become a correlate for his own DNA.

He starts to consider that when shamans say ayahuasca gives them access to information, that is literally true. And that "tryptamines allow us to tune in to a global wavelength of communication that is produced by DNA", which is shared by all living beings.

The idea is tasty, but if I had to speculate I'd say it probably goes deeper than that. DNA gets along with the idea of a holographic universe (information distributed, decentralized, interconnected) but DNA may be just one of many types of information, running in one field among many. Tryptamines will often show you everything is alive, with or without DNA. Crystals contain and transmit information. DNA is like a quasicrystal, ordered but not periodic. At least apparently. So maybe the difference is that it can hold a WEALTH of information.

 
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#10 Posted : 4/9/2014 1:35:55 AM

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I've seen plenty of DNA double helix spirals on DMT. Not sure what that means or if we're interacting with our own DNA or what the deal is, but it's existence in hyperspace marks it as somewhat significant in this conversation.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

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Global wrote:
I've seen plenty of DNA double helix spirals on DMT. Not sure what that means or if we're interacting with our own DNA or what the deal is, but it's existence in hyperspace marks it as somewhat significant in this conversation.


Not to mention all the folding that goes on!
 
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I once saw an orange hyperdimensional living plasma double helix thingamajig guide me through a scene of what looked like the big bang and earlier a timelapse of a galaxy...house you might remember the thread https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=278990#post278990

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The idea is tasty, but if I had to speculate I'd say it probably goes deeper than that.


I'd definitely agree there



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Thanks for the flashback Soothsayer-
I had honestly forgotten about the "seeds" I was presented with on my first real deep experience.
Chills are running up my spine on the left side.
 
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#14 Posted : 4/9/2014 4:39:05 AM

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Chills are running up my spine on the left side.


At first I misread this as "Chilies are running up my spine on the left side."

What a visual.Shocked

Sorry. Carry on...

 
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#15 Posted : 4/9/2014 4:53:04 AM

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Whatever the "truth" behind DMT I know I find great entertainment in the possibilities I can conjure. Even if some are a little absurd. I vaguely remember shortly after a small dose running with the idea that DMT transcends consciousness to an alternate universe if we were to experience with our Earth bound minds. Well. That's the best I can put into words...
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Francis Crick the nobel prize winner for DNA research, believed that it wasn't an accident that there is a life on this planet long


Interestingly, even if our planet, universe, and time are all perfectly tuned for our existence, all of the fuzzy mystical implications dissolve if we're nested in some kind of infinite multiverse. Infinity implies no rare thing is particularly special relative to other things. IE. Existence at all is still special, but we are not.

This possibility is supported by recent evidence for inflation from the BICEP2 telescope.
 
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#17 Posted : 4/9/2014 7:12:52 AM

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This and the speciation thread reminds me of



a new age book I never finished.. I could not cotton the science language. And Deepak CHopra's name on the front was a huge downer to begin with. But it presented some very fascinating concepts.

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MORPHIC FIELD

A field within and around a self-organizing system that organizes its characteristic structure and pattern of activity. According to the hypothesis of formative causation, morphic fields contain an inherent memory transmitted by previous similar systems by morphic resonance and tend to become increasingly habitual. Morphic fields include morphogenetic, behavioral, social, cultural, and mental fields. The greater the degree of similarity, the greater the influence of morphic resonance. In general, systems most closely resemble themselves in the past and are subject to self-resonance from their own past states.

MORPHIC RESONANCE

The influence of previous structures on subsequent similar structures of activity organized by morphic fields. According to the hypothesis of formative causation, morphic resonance involves the transmission of formative influences through or across time and space without a decrease due to distance or lapse of time.

MORPHOGENESIS

The coming into being of form.

MORPHOGENETIC FIELDS

Fields that play a causal role in morphogenesis. This term, first proposed in the 1920s, is now widely used by developmental biologists. According to the hypothesis of formative causation, these fields contain an inherent memory, transmitted from similar past organisms by the process of morphic resonance.
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#18 Posted : 4/9/2014 11:42:59 AM

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TxRx wrote:
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Francis Crick the nobel prize winner for DNA research, believed that it wasn't an accident that there is a life on this planet long


Interestingly, even if our planet, universe, and time are all perfectly tuned for our existence, all of the fuzzy mystical implications dissolve if we're nested in some kind of infinite multiverse. Infinity implies no rare thing is particularly special relative to other things. IE. Existence at all is still special, but we are not.

This possibility is supported by recent evidence for inflation from the BICEP2 telescope.


I've always found the notion of an infinite multiverse to be improbable. I think such a notion makes some theoretical science tick better, but that's about it. I'm not discarding a multiverse, or multiple realities or anything of the like - just this notion that for every action you do, in another universe you did the opposite (or a different action) ad infinitum. This doesn't mean I'm discarding infinity or the notion of an infinite universe, or even several infinite universes - just not an infinite amount of infinite universes.
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Does the multiverse theory suppose that everything exists in all combinations of all atoms and the position of there electrons relative to each other? Mind blowing.
 
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i guess this could correspond to jung's theory on the collective unconcious.
"..undisturbed by order, chaos creates balance. it is not the artifical balance of scales and weights, but the lively, ever-changing balance of a wild and beautiful dance. it is wonderful; it is magickal. it is beyond any definition, and every attempt to describe it can only be a metaphor that never comes near to its true beauty or erotic energy."

"the angel is free because of his knowledge, the beast because of his ignorance. between the two remains the son of man to struggle."
 
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