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#21 Posted : 4/3/2014 4:29:54 PM

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Most people are found guilty because they have talked to much to the police.
Anything you say can and will be used against you so cooperate but only talk to your lawyer if your arrested.
If you say nothing they have less evidence in court.

I hope it works out for you!
 

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#22 Posted : 4/3/2014 4:34:23 PM

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best wishes cy6nu5, I hope it goes as well as possible
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#23 Posted : 4/3/2014 8:02:59 PM

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Good luck, cy6nu5! I really hope everything turns out ok.
 
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#24 Posted : 4/3/2014 11:39:52 PM

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We will all be wishing the best for you.

It's strange that we have created these mindsets/laws around such plants/substances, what a weird game we/Universe are playing; hope it shifts steadily.
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#25 Posted : 4/4/2014 3:12:58 AM

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Oh man, in sure you are absolutely terrified. Manufacturer: goes hand in hand with distribution as far as indictments usually go, and yes this is serious business and I'm very sorry that you're having to face this. unfortunately it looks like karma has chosen you to be a lesson for all of us.

a lawyer is absolutely necessary. In the states we are guaranteed access to an attorney- they're called public defenders;; although their services are usually subpar as opposed to a private attorney ( we call them public pretenders), they're better than nothing. I'm making an assumption that you're in Europe I don't really know, do you have access anything like that over there?

I would anticipate them throwing every charge they can possibly think of no matter how ridiculous at you then they'll whittle them down as you slog thru your court dates. I really have nothing to tell you that's novel to this thread, I just want to reinforce the necessity of a lawyer.Get a lawyer somehow anyhow you can and keep your head up man I wish I had better things to tell you.

How did this happen? I've been in the past very guilty of flapping my lips, I always felt protected by the lack of a permanent address, but that's being ignorant and careless. As pointed out, no mater how much we believe that what we do is good, the powers that be do not think so, and they are the ones who can bust your door down, ransack your house and take what they want from you. But yes, despite the irony, WE are the criminals. But I am curious how you think they were tipped off to your profligate activity, its sad, bit pretty much every body locked up in our prisons, from bank robbers to dmt extractors are there because someone they trusted snitched. I guess I should thank you for taking this hit that reminds us to quiet.

I'd say good luck, but you need far more than fortune, you need strategy. Clean house, clean nose, clean record (?), who knows, I've seen weirder things happen than getting probation in a case life this. Although that's another issue, go ask entheogenerator or hostilis, they know the pitfalls of "the Installment Plan'

I'm sorry this happened, man,
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#26 Posted : 4/4/2014 3:28:38 PM
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giving any cop an interview with out a lawyer is just a bad idea.
so easy to incriminate yourself!
they can press charges weeks later. keep an eye on the mail for a summons from the district attorney/court date to face charges.

hopefully though the forget about you... best of luck
(retain an attorney!!)
 
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#27 Posted : 4/4/2014 10:07:17 PM

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Hey cy6nu5,

I understand that this is very distressing and that you want to share the details of what happened to you. But, at this point in the legal process (whether or not one is actually in motion) it is best for you to avoid posting ANY incriminating information here, especially things that indicate where you are or what you may or may not have done.

I'm not telling you to flat out not talk about it here (although that may be the best course of action to take at the moment). I'm simply suggesting that you avoid any posts that admit to anything you may or may not have done and definitely do not tell us any specific information about where you live, etc.

Please don't take this the wrong way. I'm just trying to help you in the only way available to me via this digital medium. We are here for you, we are a support network you should feel free to make use of, just be careful what you say.

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#28 Posted : 4/5/2014 2:31:20 AM
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I hate to sound like this. But I really was wondering why they had suspicion to raid you? Why are you getting caught?

Or can you not say here?
 
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#29 Posted : 4/5/2014 6:01:50 AM

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topherfoster wrote:
I hate to sound like this. But I really was wondering why they had suspicion to raid you? Why are you getting caught?
Or can you not say here?

Wut?



SnozzleBerry wrote:
I understand that this is very distressing and that you want to share the details of what happened to you. But, at this point in the legal process (whether or not one is actually in motion) it is best for you to avoid posting ANY incriminating information here, especially things that indicate where you are or what you may or may not have done.


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#30 Posted : 4/5/2014 7:47:24 AM

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topherfoster wrote:
I hate to sound like this. But I really was wondering why they had suspicion to raid you? Why are you getting caught?

Or can you not say here?


He said "loose lips"
 
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#31 Posted : 4/7/2014 2:41:09 AM
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Bah dangit. I'm sorry. Yeah that was rude.
 
cy6nu5
#32 Posted : 4/7/2014 2:59:09 AM
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Think I'll be getting my electronics back any time soon?
Anyone have any idea how to go about obtaining my stuff back?

I'm really surprised they haven't shown up to arrest me yet. It's remotely possible that they won't even prosecute since they didn't find any DMT onsite.

Bastards have my computers with all my video games and music though, and that really grinds my gears because I had like a half a terabyte of stuff. I don't imagine it would take too long to find anything they're looking for. There's nothing particularly useful to the Feds on my computers anyway. Should have told them that they need to come back with a warrant for my computer. Shoulda coulda woulda.

I'm fully prepared to go to ground though.
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#33 Posted : 4/7/2014 3:03:17 AM
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Anyone have any information on any communes or good places to skip to? I'm serious guys. I want to become a wandering shaman, and I think this is my call. I feel like it's time for me to go to ground and to find a spiritual path far removed from society and all its ills. Something rather Buddha-like.
I would deeply love to join a monastery.
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cy6nu5
#34 Posted : 4/7/2014 3:06:07 AM
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ymer wrote:
topherfoster wrote:
I hate to sound like this. But I really was wondering why they had suspicion to raid you? Why are you getting caught?

Or can you not say here?


He said "loose lips"



Yeah, I had a friend who got a few whispers in his ear and decided he wanted to think I was a sociopath, though I'm really a bad one if so... I often find myself doing many compassionate things just because.
ANYWAY this frenemy of mine decides he wants to team up with my soon-to-be-ex stepdad who molested my sister to try to take me down with him.
Makes a ton of sense right?
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#35 Posted : 4/7/2014 3:19:36 AM

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Rule Number One.... the only rule you need to remember at this moment.

Talk to no one.

If they ask you what you are making, exercise your right to silence.

Loose lips sink ships is so true in so many instances, this also includes LEO interrogation/questioning. No matter how incriminating, no matter how obvious it may seem and how much you think they know, say nothing.

Talking to them (without a lawyer) will only progress the situation to more dismal levels.

Again I stress..... SAY NOTHING. Period. Name, date of birth, SSN, that's it.
"We speak of Time and Mind, which do not easily yield to catagories. We separate past and future and find that Time is an amalgam of both. We separate good and evil and find that Mind is an amalgam of both. To understand, we must grasp the whole." -Isaac Asimov

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger." -Buddha

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when my fear is gone I will turn and face fear's path, and only I will remain." -Paul Atreides, while being tested with the Gom Jabbar by the Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
 
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#36 Posted : 4/7/2014 5:26:46 AM
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Ancotar wrote:
Rule Number One.... the only rule you need to remember at this moment.

Talk to no one.

If they ask you what you are making, exercise your right to silence.

Loose lips sink ships is so true in so many instances, this also includes LEO interrogation/questioning. No matter how incriminating, no matter how obvious it may seem and how much you think they know, say nothing.

Talking to them (without a lawyer) will only progress the situation to more dismal levels.

Again I stress..... SAY NOTHING. Period. Name, date of birth, SSN, that's it.

A bit late for that... I pretty much gave full disclosure in the interview. I told them it was something I was doing as a project, that it failed and that I scrapped it. Told them the procedure I used, everything. When you really think you're going to be put in handcuffs you tend to not really care anymore. I've been in jail before. I seriously thought I was going to be arrested then and there so I just said whatever and made small talk.
Told them while searching where to find things, let them know when they found everything worth finding, basically being about as flippant as possible.
Interestingly enough they just let me walk right out the front door. I was floored. I have to wonder if the inquisitors are even going to bother with this.
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#37 Posted : 4/7/2014 4:03:00 PM


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cy6nu5 wrote:
I pretty much gave full disclosure in the interview. I told them it was something I was doing as a project, that it failed and that I scrapped it. Told them the procedure I used, everything. When you really think you're going to be put in handcuffs you tend to not really care anymore.

A note to others: DO NOT DO THIS! EVER!

Retain an attorney. Be respectful and cooperative. Say nothing.

OP - You might be free now but let's hope they are not building a case with you providing the evidence carte blanche.
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#38 Posted : 4/7/2014 4:22:38 PM

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#39 Posted : 4/7/2014 5:27:46 PM

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@cy6nu5: Not sure if this helps, but let your lawyer have a look at:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=533397#post533397

How dare they steal your stuff, when the prosecutor is also involved in the manufacturing of a controlled substance:

"Manufacture" is defined as “the production [..] of a controlled substance, either directly or indirectly [..] by means of chemical synthesis [..]” Cudd v. Ozmint, 2009 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 88603 (D.S.C. Aug. 11, 2009)

backed up by following scientific papers:

Quote:
Su, T; Hayashi, T; Vaupel, DB. When the endogenous hallucinogenic trace amine N,N-dimethyltryptamine meets the sigma-1 receptor. Sci. Signal., 10 Mar 2009, 2 (61), 1–4. 392 kB. doi:10.1126/scisignal.261pe12

http://bitnest.ca/extern...ES%2504U%2509%2522%257Cb

Quote:
Fontanilla, D; Johannessen, M; Hajipour, AR; Cozzi, NV; Jackson, MB; Ruoho, AE. The hallucinogen N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) is an endogenous sigma-1 receptor regulator. Science, 13 Feb 2009, 323 (5916):,934–937. 529 kB. doi:10.1126/science.1166127

http://bitnest.ca/extern...24%252CQ%251BVZW%2504UKp


Quote:
Barker, SA; McIlhenny, EH; Strassman, R. A critical review of reports of endogenous psychedelic N,N-dimethyltryptamines in humans: 1955–2010. Drug Test. Anal., 2012. 270 kB. doi:10.1002/dta.422

http://bitnest.ca/extern...UgXXCNAUj%257E%257D%2506


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Fight for the best outcome our client is facing

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#40 Posted : 4/7/2014 8:03:28 PM

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Cygnus , in which country do you live ?
I am terrified to hear that and now feeling paranoia because all my glassware is also stays wehere everyone can see in the home.

Bu the idea that will arrest you is little bit bugging me i mean in the end the thing that you do is some little experiment extraction of leaves , roots etc. How they can prove it ?
Or is it also illegal to making experiments at home where you live ? Can anyone please lighten me a little bit ?
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