I am not going to go into any great detail yet about this, but psilocybe alkaloids do work very well in my experience as a snuff. It seems they are much more active this way as opposed to oral, come on within 5 minutes and the experience is shorter. Body effects are very clean and clear, very similar to DMT. Mentally it feels cleaner as well.

I have only tested a very light dose once so far. It was enough to achieve a nice tryptamine glow. No closed eye visuals or visions, but a mild open eye visual enhancement and very nice mental effects. The dose would have been to low to produce this effect orally.

The preperation I worked with was a tincture, becasue I have been experimenting with sublingual psilocybe alkaloids, which also works very well and produces a clean and clear more condensed experience..but I will talk about that elsewhere.

I snuffed just two drops of the tincture as a tester dose. It was prepared by making a tea with a small ammount of ascorbic acid and lemon, filtering and evaporating down to a resin on lowest setting in a dehydrator, and then redissolving the resin in minimal ammount of water/vinegar mix in a tincture bottle. I cant get ethanol here which is why I did it this way. The tincture was then stored in the freezer to keep it fresh, and thawed out before each use. At this dose I was baseline within 2 hours. Same timeframe with sublingual. Might go longer with larger visionary doses, but it is definatly shorter and cleaner than even tea.

Next time for a snuff I would follow a more traditional virola style recipe..where a dry water extract/resin is mixed with small ammounts ashes or some other kind of bulking agent so that the resin can be powdered.

I always had a feeling this would work quite well. More and more people have been telling me how great 4acoDMT works as a snuff, and I have heard that snuffing synthetic psilocybin produced a really powerful DMT style experience. Christain Ratsch claimed to witness Nepalese shamans using psilocybe mushrooms in a snuff.

This should be obvious, but I am NOT talking abotu snuffing dry powdered mushrooms. I am referring only to extracts. If you try to snuff dry mushroom powder it will probly expand inside your nose like a sponge, and be very unpleasant with minor effect.

This is very interesting! I have some tincture in ethanol right now, and I never considered trying it sublingualy. I really don't know why.... it would have been worth a try!

Was there any unpleasant effects to the nose?

I look forward to hearing how it works with the ash/powdered mixture.

yeah well it's an acetate tincture..so it burns a bit but I am used to DMT snuffs. Never snuffed anything other than tryptamines and harmalas so I dont know how it compares. I never planned to do it this way. My idea was to make it as close to a virola resin preperation as possible..but I had the tincture there and figured I would try.

Make sure you get it very concentrated if you want to use the tincture sublingual. Just 2-3 drops at a time otherwise its too much liquid. I take 3 drops..hold it for 5 minutes..swish it around if it comes out from under my tounge..spit it out and then another 3 drops. Sometimes I take sublingual harmalas first.

Just get it as concentrated as you can is what I do.

Interesting technique! I would very much like to try this some time soon. Thanks jamie!


Plus the spores might germinate and then you'd have mushrooms growing in your lungs and out your nose!

Would this method work with a dry extract of mushrooms, purified to the point of being able to be vaporized?

There was a method that I had read on here that produced a product pure enough for vaporization. It consisted of washes with a aromatic solvent such as ether (or DCM since its much more available), washes in acetone, and then washes in I believe alcohol. The DMC and Acetone are discarded, containing mostly sugars and other unwanted things, and the alcohol is then evapped to leave a dry powder that can be scraped up and vaporized, made into a tincture, or just plain eaten.

Would this extract be pure enough for snuffing? Would it have to be dissolved in something like water first, or could just the dry extract be crushed up and used on its own?

Edit: It is not an aromatic solvent, it is a halogenated solvent such as chloroform and DCM. I apologize.

I would imagine that an extract pure enough to be vaporized would likely be pure enough to be snuffed, but I could be wrong.

I haven't heard of this method, but I am really curious about it... Any chance you have the link?

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it!

I do have the link.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...osts&t=27807&p=2

It is an interesting thread, and the above tek is discussed around post #30 on the second page. Apparently its the Albert Hoffman method. Anyone interested in extracting from mushrooms should give it a read and try it out. I plan on testing it out whenever I have a larger amount of material to work with.

I've been away from the internet for a while, so sorry to resurrect an older thread. Very interesting stuff, I'm curious about your exact process for making a tincture effectively jamie.

Thanks for your efforts. Keep this thread goin!

I realize this thread has been dormant for a few months, but I plan on experimenting with this process some time in the near future.

Jamie, any chance you would be willing to elaborate on what you would have done differently if you had used ethanol? I'm guessing you might have just dissolved the resinous crude extract in ethanol rather than dilute vinegar, but I figured I would ask just to be sure.

I would make a resin, with either alcohol or evaporated tea w/e..and then add some kind of filler to the goo so that it can be powdered..and then I would snuff that. Nepalese shamans have been observed making a snuff called "thapana" that includes psilocybes(cubensis are known apparently), as well as cannabis and datura and amanita (Ratsch, Muller. 2000). They call the psilocybes "traveling mushrooms" apparently and identify a number of species. The snuff is stored in a bamboo tube..

So this is a method worthy of more exploration IMO...

Great, thanks for the information Jamie! I will keep you posted on any progress I make while exploring this ROA.

try to do all of this with little to no heat as well..maybe add some ascorbic acid before evaporated to help keep it stable..

Thanks for this jamie - fascinating work you're doing. I was also very interested to read your comments on thapana and the Nepalese shamans. I'll definitely read up further.

Entheogenerator - looking forward to hearing about your experiments and process.

Thanks, that was my intention.

One more question for you Jamie, if you'd be so kind as to answer. Wouldn't it be more efficient to do separate pulls of both ethanol and methanol, due to the differing solubilities of psilocin and psilocybin? Is there a chance that an ethanol extraction would leave behind any psilocin present in the mushrooms?

I'm not necessarily trying to do a full extraction per se, as I am well aware of the difficulties others have faced with this, but I would certainly like to maximize the yield of active alkaloids in my crude extract while minimizing the amount left in the fungal tissues.

Hmm, i have a bottle of acidified ETOH extraction sitting around. May have to bust out the food dehydrator and see what happens.

Jamie excelent contribution.

How much dose of shroom you take for snuff?? 0.5g ?

Grettings!