This sounds interesting.

Lobbying for Mexico's psychedelic freedom.

Jox

Not sure but I don't think askinf for donations on here for things like this is allowed... also it brings up the question of leakage of personal information during the transaction which why I believe its not allowed. We all wish for our freedoms to do as we please but I don't think this is the place to ask this regardless of appropiatness or any rule breaking whether you intentionally did it or not. - I could be wrong... maybe try kick starter? or gofund me... but becareful how you word your intents on those sites as they may have ruling stating you can't even discuss drugs period let alone, for recreational use, so make sure you have a good intent and think carefully how you set up an account on either of those sites to portray your intents and purpose for the donations...

To further this The attitude page doesn't appear to specifically cover this but here's some exceprts that may apply if not fully but partially to this post. No sharing of any real life information

No sharing of any real life information

Due to the nature of the topics discussed on this forum it is not allowed to post any information that will reveal one's identity. Examples of this are facebook pages, e-mail addresses, home addresses, photo's of one self or any other means that will give handles to have you tracked in real life.

No commercial-scaled extractions and reckless “spreading”

The Nexus is not a place for commercial operations and we do not want to support drug dealers; we believe in using these substances for personal use.

If and when sharing these substances, we believe that it has to be done without money or other payments involved, with a careful approach and care when facilitating the introduction and/or experience of others.

It is imperative to take care that the person ingesting has no contraindicating medical/psychological history, takes it in a proper set and setting, and correct dosage/method of ingestion. This cannot be done if the substances are spread on a large scale. We do not want to "turn on the world", those who are ready will seek it. Indiscriminate spreading of psychedelics can lead to potential serious damage to people and is a big legal liability. Big extractions (and the preparations leading to it and gathering of materials) can attract the attention of the Law.

Spreading of the message of psychedelics itself through superficial YouTube videos showing use or extractions can also cause a lot of damage to the community (as happened with salvia) and is frowned upon.

No discussion on selling, buying, sourcing, acquiring, pricing, trading, mentioning pending deliveries or smuggling of drugs

This includes all isolated psychedelic compounds and RCs (Research Chemicals), whether they are legal or not. The only goods allowed to be discussed are legal live plants, legal viable seeds (both in the Sustainable plant and seed suppliers subforum) and legal/unwatched chemical supplies. See Street Value of DMT (AND WHY YOU SHOULDN'T EVER SELL DMT AND OTHER PSYCHEDELICS) for good reasons why we don't allow this.

Also please read this thread: Bye bye MHRB sourcing talk, we will remember you


No using the Nexus as a personal meet-up point

Due to potential legal risks, we do not want people giving their emails or personal contacts (or displaying full face pictures) openly. We don't want people telling other members they don't already know to meet up privately, this can be a problem for both the people meeting as well as bringing attention for the whole community. The only exception we make is that we allow establishing general meeting points for festivals and conferences because you don't have to say who you are in the Nexus when going there, and you can go to the meeting point if you want while remaining anonymous. If you do meet up, do not bring drugs and be sure to maintain your personal safety.

AGAIN I WANT TO POINT OUT I"M NOT TRYING TO CAUSE A PROBLEM WHAT YOU ARE DOING IMO IS VERY HELPFUL AND CLEAR CUT, AND THE EXCERPTS I LISTED ARE NOT IN ANY WAY FULLY DEFINING THIS SITUATION BUT TO AN EXTENT SOME THINGS DO, I JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO GET AN INFRACTION FOR SOMETHING THAT COULD BENEFIT PEOPLE - THIS CAME FROM THE ATTITUDE PAGE WHICH THE GENERAL RULES OF THE COMUNITY AND HOW TO POST WHAT TO POST AND WHAT IS AND ISNT APPROPRIATE THIS INFO AND ORE CAN BE FOUND AT - https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Attitude_Page

The only clear cut mention of donations is listed here - Learn and give back

The Nexus is a community that thrives on the collaborative efforts of members in different areas throughout the years. We depend on the contributions of all Nexians, be it seniors or new members, to create, maintain and update the quality information here. If you have enjoyed, learned from and made use of the information and discussions here, please take your time to also contribute back. Each person has their own unique way to contribute, so you have to find your own. A few ideas: improve chemical knowledge and do side-by-side tests, participate in discussions and criticise constructively other arguments, critically question other people to improve depth of discussions, contribute to the Nexus wiki, sharing trip reports, mediating arguments between people who cant find consensus, post interesting links to related subjects, contribute to sustainability Nexus, donating, suggesting new changes to design or forum, etc. Give back, and be a co-creator of this incredible place

But this is to aid the site and via secure transaction I believe. I know I saw a post mentioning donations for the shulgin family as well once and I don't think there was an issue, but just looking out for you. Hope this helps and hopefully if what you'r posting about is legit and safe it helps liberate people and allow more freedom. Good luck.

Jox has just made people who may be interested aware of it thats all no request was made.

I understand but with a title like - Donate if you can... again I just didn't want hi to get in trouble for trying to help a cause also the websiee though well build doesn't appear to be secure I click it get a secure link for a second the redirects to non secured site, also beside the point apperently donations are no longer being accepted just looked and the tier is at 0.

Again not trying to bring drama into this post as a I see it as a good cause... but just the title at first kinda seemed like it could be grey area, and then reading the post, I just wasn't sure... like I said there isn't any info in the rules (Attitude page) saying this is not allowed... but I would still consider it a grey area, as it puts people personal info should they donate in a compromising situation (though) infact it is their own fault if they get scammed by not researching, or if other things occur my general udnerstanding of the consensus is discussion of money or swapping of money for anything including but not limited to drugs is basically prohibited other than live samples of plants.

TOXSIN: Although I always appreciate people's efforts to help uphold the expectations of this online community, in this instance you seem unsure whether or not a rule was even broken in the first place. I personally, do not believe that Jox's post violated any of the expectations of The Attitude Page.

I would suggest that unless you are absolutely certain that someone is posting outside of the guidelines, leave it to the mods to decide what does and does not violate the terms outlined in The Attitude Page. You can always PM a moderator and say "Hey, here's a link to a thread which I think violates The Attitude Page, and I believe it does so because of [x], [y], and [z]. Telling someone that they are breaking the rules when you are not even sure that they are could definitely create unnecessary conflict.

Again thank you for your efforts, I just do not believe they are warranted in this specific situation.

In understand I'm used to forums with a report abuse section but I as stated didn't mean to imply he broke a rule purposely infact I believe I did make clear I was unsure, which is why I posted the link to the attitude section, and specific things which could borderline be grey areas, sorry for any confusion again I meant no drama, only to uphold the rules, and was unaware if he knew either. Like I said I'm used to forums with report post buttons. In the future I will take this advice.

Just to inform the people:

We will soon have a new rule in the attitude page where any recruiting of any form can only be performed with our explicit permission. This one is the last to fall through so to say.

This rule will be there since it is often not totally clear where the recruiting is for and where the money for donations will go to. Only when a recruiting is 100% clear and morally justified than it can be placed on the DMT-Nexus.


Kind regards,

The Traveler