Anybody try this? I read reports over at ayahuasca forums that combining these two you can remember your real powerful salvia sessions that you get when smoking extracts and that it's real nice oral/sublingually like salvia in high definition.

I have heard of one shaman who used Salvia divinorum and Ayahuasca to create huge panoramic landscape hallucinations.

..yeah if I smoke a small hit of leaf before i smoke spice it always widens my visions. Im going to drink a cappi tea and then smoke and quid salvia soon, I think the 2 will synergise well..worked the same way when I smoked leaf before a mushroom trip..she showed up, and opened up the mushroom space.

huge panoramas? check out pablo amaringo, awesome dude. his work is true genius.

yeah similar to that, but a little more "layered" in dimensional sense becasue of the nature of salvia. I have heard reports from people who substitue mini doses of salvia before drinking aya in place of datura to widen the visions..and it works well...you want a good spice to sage ratio though. The salvia is like cappi in a sense when I use it this way, its the cave for the spice to present itself within..and that cave is damn huge..only a little bit of salvia is needed, especially with other psychedelics.

so the does would be small enough that you wouldn't feel anything from salvia before the aya kicks in how is it taken smoked,quidded,or tea?

Quid.

When used with aya I have been told that it is best to smoke or quid the leaf before you drink the aya, so that by the time you drink all the noticable effects are gone, but when the aya kicks in the visions are wider, and there is more depth..this method is probabily better for quidding, so the effects linger longer.

When I smoke it with spice, I usually smoke the 2 together, or smoke the spice quickly first from one pipe, and then smoke the sage after I exhale the spice. You dont want so much salvia that you go amnesiac..you dont really want much beyond level 1-2 salvia space..You want the spot where the back of you're eyelids are just starting to wrap around youre inner vision like a caccoon..than the rest is all the spice. Even a low dose of spice will be a breakthrough for me when I do this becase the salvia has already brought me "out"..but not too far.

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