hi
i am intersted of making some CHANGA with harmala
I have some extracted harmala alkaloids
i just wonder the ratio is 22:1 is what I was told.
how much do i need for 1 gram of changa ? or 1 gr of spice

tnx for your time

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There are a tremendous number of threads on this forum discussing changa ratios. In the future, please do your own research before posting a new thread. The DMT Nexus does not condone "spoon-feeding" information to people. Please use the search function and browse through existing threads. If after doing that you still haven't found an answer, consider posting a new thread.

In the name of harm reduction, I will go ahead and say that I have never heard of anyone making a changa blend which was even close to 22:1. Whoever told you that either has a very unique (and possibly dangerous) preference for their changa, or they are wildly misinformed.

Also, "22:1" means nothing unless you say "22:1 spice to harmalas" or "22:1 harmalas to spice". A much better place to start would be 1:1:1 (1 part leaf matter, 1 part spice, and one part harmala alkaloids). Beyond that, it all comes down to personal preference.

Tnx for asnwering, i will clear it up the 22:1 it means seeds:extract
its not about the spice ratio.It says its pure alkaloids..

i have done some reseach but got confused with harmala
i have read some people just add passion flower,some people add just capi leave,and some make enchane 10x ,regarding the harmala i have read that people used much less than 1 gr harmala
like used 0.2
so i have got confused what is best ratio

In my opinion, you'd be much better off extracting the harmalas from the rue. It is a very simple process, and you would be able to gauge your alkaloid ratios much more accurately.

I have yet to see any information regarding Syrian Rue seeds in changa. I would guess that this is due to the fact that Syrian Rue seeds are not ideal for smoking.

how about powdered Caapi ?
what if i make enhance leaf from powdered caapi
boiling 10 gr,evap on leaf of mint,or passion flower
and make 10x :1;1
what do u think ? people do smoke caapi powder frov the VINE not the leaf
?

this is a description of harmala alkaloids

This 22:1 extract from Peganum harmala seeds consists of all the purified Harmala alkaloids Harmaline, Harmine and traces of THH in a ratio as present in the seed. All the other alkaloids present in Peganum like the quinazoline alkaloids are NOT present in this extract. In making this extract only natural, food-grade solvents and reagents are used

That sounds like extracted and reasonably purified harmala alkaloids allright. You can use those as is IF they are in the free-base form. The freebase is usually colored off-white to tan to light brown. If you have the HCl salt form of the alkaloid, which is usually brightly yellow colored, you must rebase it first. This is explained elsewhere on the site.

Personally, I add harmalas to changa in about half the amount of spice. The ratio of carrier herb can vary from equal weigth of the alkaloids to fourfould. Equal weight leads to a potent mix that is easy to breakthrough on, but is also more difficult to measure. More dilute mixes are easier to dose and better suited for sub-breakthrough use.