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Erinn22
#1 Posted : 5/6/2009 9:33:07 PM
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SWIM just got some MHRB and he wants to try extracting with Noman's tek but he couldn't find any NaOH.
SWIM got some Sodium Bicarbonate which SWIM will convert to Sodium carbonate and SWIM is wondering if it could work as fine as NaOH in the Noman's tek.

Also, SWIM wonders, if it could, how much should SWIM use ?
 

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#2 Posted : 5/7/2009 12:00:40 AM
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No.
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#3 Posted : 5/7/2009 12:28:12 AM
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You can use sodium carbonate in an A/B but not STB, so it's a no for Noman's tek sadly.
 
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#4 Posted : 5/7/2009 2:04:04 AM

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Look into a dry tek. You can use that base no problem but you'll have to find yourself some acetone.
 
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#5 Posted : 5/7/2009 6:31:12 AM
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SWIM is seriously considering trying this with ground up MHRB as the extremely high PH is only REALLY required for completely breaking down organic matter.(unground bark). SWIM is not sure the minimum PH required to release the DMT from the bark.
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#6 Posted : 5/7/2009 10:24:06 AM
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Aha, so no STB for SWIM.

So, SWIM is considering 2 options now. Help SWIM with choosing the best one Pleased

1. DRY TEK
SWIM doesn't have acetone, only Hempel 823, which is a thinner, a good non-polar solvent. Could SWIM use that or it has to be acetone ? (It's not a problem to get acetone for SWIM)
Oh, and can someone link SWIM the sodium carbonate dry tek ? SWIM couldn't find the right one.

2. A/B
SWIM is familiar with the A/B extraction, but he's not sure if he could do it with the mats that are available to SWIM:
-HCl
-Sodium carbonate
-Hempel 823 thinner (non-polar solvent)


Or if you have any other idea, SWIM would like to hear them. But keep in mind these are most likely the only mats he can get.
 
Erinn22
#7 Posted : 5/8/2009 3:54:08 PM
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Anyone ?
 
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#8 Posted : 5/8/2009 5:18:14 PM

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You can use calcium hydroxide(lime) for a wet STB.
 
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#9 Posted : 5/8/2009 6:38:25 PM
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SWIM tried to find lime and failed. I didn't write which are the only mats SWIM has for no reason. Could anyone help SWIM choosing the best tek with what he's got ?
 
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#10 Posted : 5/8/2009 9:57:56 PM

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If you are doing an A/B Hcl isn't required. White vinegar and a little patience is far better.

Plus it's easy to go ph crazy with strong acids which means much more base has to be used to get the ph high enough afterwards.
 
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#11 Posted : 5/8/2009 10:10:47 PM
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Oh, SWIM thanks for the tip.

Could SWIM use Sodium Carbonate for A/B ?
 
 
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