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Bridgesii Extract might have microscopic pieces of glass, need advice. Options
 
abrasumente
#1 Posted : 3/16/2014 6:46:33 PM
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I have a bridgesii extract i procured a while ago (using the d-limonene dry tek) that might have tiny tiny peices of glass in it from scraping the glass dish it was in, there are some shiny places in the extract that make me believe there is. The glass dish also has a deep scratch in it from scraping the material up with a paint scraper. Would there be any danger in ingesting microscopic pieces of glass?

I was surprised i got anything from the 30 grams of powder i used, it was whole cactus because there were what looked like small pieces of wood in it, definetly not the outer skins. It wieghs out to about 120+ mg. (using a 0.01 scale) and looks like earwax.
 

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#2 Posted : 3/16/2014 6:47:33 PM

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redissolve in water, filter and re-evap.
 
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#3 Posted : 3/16/2014 6:49:25 PM
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endlessness wrote:
redissolve in water, filter and re-evap.


Can't believe i didn't think of that. Makes sense, thanks.
 
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#4 Posted : 3/16/2014 7:01:19 PM
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Hopefully this 120mg is even enough to feel something. Razz
 
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#5 Posted : 3/16/2014 8:14:01 PM

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Can't say this is what you've seen, but on numerous occasions while making a cactus tea or resin, I have observed a kind of near-tansparent, superfine almost crystalline grit settle to the bottom and sides of the pan. Glasslike could be a good word for it, but since the concoction had not touched glass, I've always thought it was due to the heat and acidified water. One might even fantasize that the grit was a desirable alkaloid precipitating out of solution. I've always gone ahead and drunk it and I'm still here. I believe there are additional observations about this grit in one of our threads here. Try a "no glass" tek to be sure.
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abrasumente wrote:
Would there be any danger in ingesting microscopic pieces of glass?

And remember, your personal health and safety have priority before any substance, ever! Smile

So always take the safe route and never ingest anything you are not sure of if it's safe or not. It was a good thing you asked here before taking any chances.


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#7 Posted : 3/16/2014 8:35:42 PM
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paint scraper shouldn't scratch glass- as glass is harder than steel....
i clean glass with a razor blade all the time.
 
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#8 Posted : 3/16/2014 8:50:47 PM

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dg wrote:
paint scraper shouldn't scratch glass- as glass is harder than steel....
i clean glass with a razor blade all the time.


Have to agree with DG here. SWIM has been scraping glass dishes with razor blades for years now. It could be what pau is talking about (SWIM has never seen this, though). Still, it can't hurt to re-dissolve and filter. Use a small filter and rinse it once with fresh H2O to make sure you lose as little as possible!
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#9 Posted : 3/16/2014 9:43:45 PM
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That's interesting pau. ^^

The Traveler wrote:
And remember, your personal health and safety have priority before any substance, ever! Smile

So always take the safe route and never ingest anything you are not sure of if it's safe or not. It was a good thing you asked here before taking any chances.


Good advice The Traveler, thank you.

dg wrote:
paint scraper shouldn't scratch glass- as glass is harder than steel....
i clean glass with a razor blade all the time.


I will definetly use a razor blade next time, since it's way thinner than the scraper i was using and doesn't need much pressure to lift the extract, and probably a stainless steel dish just to make damn sure it's clean Big grin

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Still, it can't hurt to re-dissolve and filter. Use a small filter and rinse it once with fresh H2O to make sure you lose as little as possible!


Thanks, I'm going to dissolve in a warm bottle of water, shake to evenly distribute, and filter it when i'm ready to drink Thumbs up Probably tomorrow. Cool

What do you guys think the chances are of feeling anything from this 120mg? I've read the other alkaloids make the bridgesii stonger than the other mescaline cacti. I'm guessing the mescaline content is around 60mg or less? This is my first try with brigesii. Thumbs up
 
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#10 Posted : 3/17/2014 10:29:21 PM

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Erowid says threshhold around 100mg, but honestly depending on how experienced with psychedelic states you may not notice a level that low. Also, everyone metabolizes differently. SWIM gave someone nearly 400mg once (fairly impure) and they said the effects were not very strong for them. The effects were pretty strong for everyone but him. At very best you will have a weak experience, at worst you will hardly notice. The first time SWIM took a psychedelic he took a very small amount of LSD. He didn't notice much difference during the experience or for a year or so after. Another experience he had with a much higher dose had a synchronistic event with his first experience, clear as day, and ever since that moment he can now see the first experience more clearly.

My point is enjoy it regardless if you are + or ++++. Who knows what you might discover...

I keep hearing different things about Bridgesii alkaloids and I won't claim to be very knowledgeable. I originally heard that it contained an MAOI but recently found an alkaloid list with no MAOI... *sigh* The main thing I can say is it seems this cactus has one of the higher mescaline % compositions of active alkaloids. The amount of mescaline in your product will highly depend on how thoroughly you extracted and how exact your titrations were.

Enjoy. Say hi to the cactus spirit for me Very happy


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#11 Posted : 3/18/2014 3:14:56 AM
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400mg seems like alot to not feel much. That is interesting how everyone varies so much on dosage. I know i don't have too high of a tolerance because slight effects were noticed from 5 grams of san pedro powder before, 10 grams felt like a threshold dose, but with powder you never know.

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The main thing I can say is it seems this cactus has one of the higher mescaline % compositions of active alkaloids


That's good to hear.

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Enjoy. Say hi to the cactus spirit for me

Will do! Big grin

 
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I have yet to see any confirmation that T. bridgesii contains an MAOI. I often advise people to stick with T. bridgesii simply because of it's potency and reliability in terms of mescaline content.
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#13 Posted : 3/18/2014 4:38:33 AM

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120mg of mesc is enough to feel as long as you consume it on a light or empty stomach and it is relatively pure. Usually need around 200mg+ for psychedelic effects, but should still create some nice glowing energy and body high. I remember reading reports of a nexian in the past (69ron?), where a favorite past time on the weekend was like 100mg mesc with a nice cup of coffee in the morning.. creating a good mood lift, energy, and mildly stimulating effects. Or something like that. Smile


Oh and btw.. T. bridgesii -

Contains: mescaline, tyramine, 3-methoxytyramine, 3-4-dimethoxyphenethylamine.

^Pulled from a erowid document.^ 3-4-dimethoxyphenethylamine has been shown to have some minor monoamine oxidase inhibiting effects in literature, so it is possible there may be some activity. The compound is in such small quantities though I doubt it would play much of a role in the experience imo.
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