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My cousin wants to try DMT because it sounds "fun" and "awesome" Options
 
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#1 Posted : 3/15/2014 1:21:59 PM

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Yeah, I'd say good call on not deciding to be responsible for someone else's psyche.

I imagine their gym friend might have bad vape technique and is just having cool visuals and hasn't actually broken trhough.

 

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#2 Posted : 3/15/2014 4:55:40 PM

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Akasha224 wrote:
. We are only about a year or two apart and have shared everything with each other almost our entire lives, but I made the decision several months ago that this was one thing I would never tell her about because I just didn't think she was capable of understanding this molecule.


If she is dead set on trying DMT, maybe you should be the one to introduce her rather than leaving it up to someone she doesn"t know very well who maybe irresponsible in their views towards the experience.
 
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#3 Posted : 3/15/2014 5:23:18 PM

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I agree with hug, it might be best if you did let her do it. You can set the place time, etc. so hopefully she does have a life changing experience for the better. It may even be your responsibility to do so. She seems very intrigued, and I can only imagine the hell that might unfold if one were to take a large, or far too large, of a dose in the setting of a party.

I recommend trusting the molecule. Either she will have a powerful, moving event, or she will have the daylights scared out of her in a way she never thought possible, and likely swear the whole thing off. In either case, at least she would have a level headed person, and someone who actually cares about her like you there for support. At least with you being the one, she can be educated in how to approach the thing with respect, and the proper mindset. It just seems to me that it will be inevitable that she gets it, going off of how you described her.

I know it's a lot to bear if you do offer it. I have some friends that are very interested in mushrooms, and it twists me up into a knot. I know how good it can be, but I also know how bad it can be. I am the one with knowledge of what I am giving to them, I know it's true nature, they have no idea, and that's a very heavy thing. It's a decision not to be taken lightly.
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#4 Posted : 3/15/2014 5:43:31 PM

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I think that introducing someone to DMT is an endeavour which needs careful consideration, particularly if their psychedelic experiences have not been beyond the use of cannabis (I'm assuming the OPs cousin probably hasn't eaten a decent dose of it).But DMT doesn't always have to involve the GVG and the heavy experiences it can deliver; I reckon a changa spliff would be a much more controlled intro to the substance......
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#5 Posted : 3/15/2014 5:47:47 PM
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Mustelid wrote:
Yeah, I'd say good call on not deciding to be responsible for someone else's psyche.

I imagine their gym friend might have bad vape technique and is just having cool visuals and hasn't actually broken trhough.



I'm guessing this might be it. The few people I've known in real life that have indulged in DMT basically just sprinkled it onto a bowl of MJ and lit it all on fire. I used to do this too, then I realized I could have a much more powerful experience with a much smaller dose using a vaporizer (GVG specifically).

hug46 and Mr. Peabody,

I can see your points of view as well. When she wants to do something, she's very dead set on it. Furthermore, she's currently a college student, and from stories she's told me about her school, it sounds like it would be very easy to procure drugs in a fashion that cannot be discussed on this message board. As DMT becomes more and more popular, I feel that it would be a safe assumption that it may become easier to obtain in this way as well, increasing the chances that she will be able to find it and use it in an unfavorable setting. However, she did mention that if she ever were to try it, she would want me there with her because I'm experienced and she trusts me, so there is that.

Another thing I'm worried about is that she also has psychological problems, and, to my knowledge, still takes psychopharmaceuticals. This in itself makes me a little paranoid; not that I think DMT will necessarily unravel some latent psychosis and make her go completely insane.
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#6 Posted : 3/15/2014 6:32:25 PM


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corpus callosum wrote:
; I reckon a changa spliff would be a much more controlled intro to the substance......

Agreed. This is my preferred ROA for introducing people to the substance. Usually it takes place at some outdoor festival where I might not know the person so well. There is little to no chance a puff or two or three on the spliff will result in a total breakthrough. Instead it becomes a nice lower-dose introduction to the space.

Also, I make sure it is known beforehand that the 'puff puff pass' rule is not in effect with a changa spliff. Smoke as much or as little as needed.
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My ex-girlfriend had only smoked weed. I gave her her first DMT experience. She loved it. She would not have pursued it on her own, would not have gone through what we do, the extractions and beauty of kitchen chemistry. So I took her by the hand and acted as guide. It was changa she smoked, as I wasn't even going to try and get her to smoke freebase for her first time (I don't like plain freebase and never do it).

We did it together about three times. The last time I had her drink Syrian rue tea prior to smoking. She saw Jesus.

Trust the molecule and those who feel drawn to it, even it they aren't as passionate as we are with extracting your own (which is the ONLY way I've done it, my own extractions, nothing better!).

Last night she sent me a text: "Can I trip with you again soon?"

"That would be awesome," I said.

She had only smoked weed. You don't have to be experienced with prior psychedelics at all, this is a total and complete falsehood; just make sure they are well-informed of what can happen.
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I agree with the general consensus of this thread: better to experience it with you than with some random person at a party or something.

I also agree that a couple of puffs of changa would probably be the more gentle introduction route, just make sure the psychopharmaceuticals she is taking will not have a dangerous interaction with the harmalas.
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