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Do you think the ticking of a clock could affect your trip in any way? Options
 
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#1 Posted : 3/11/2014 6:42:15 PM

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I have two clocks in my room and the thought just occurred to me that maybe the ticking could affect a trip somehow. I know music can, so why not clocks? There's something about the ticking of a clock that reinforces the concept of the passage of time, or even a countdown of some sort. Or do you reckon you'll be so far gone that you won't even notice the ticking? Just a thought, tell me if I'm talking nonsense haha
 

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#2 Posted : 3/11/2014 6:52:47 PM

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Antique, ticking clocks remind me of the anxiety filled silence in between the verbal abuse I suffered under my mother. So for me, I imagine they might color the trip. Do you have any deeply negative associations with ticking clocks? If so, take it out of the room. I use a fan for white noise, to block out sounds. I'm sure it would drive some people nuts.
But if you go deep enough it probably won't matter. If you are worried about it, it might matter.
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#3 Posted : 3/11/2014 10:39:27 PM

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Ah sorry to hear that mate. No not for me. In fact I'd say there's a more positive association with them as I've had a clock in my room since I was a kid, so there's a sense of familiarity with them (same as with fans actually). I think I'd find pure silence more unsettling if I'm honest.
 
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#4 Posted : 3/11/2014 11:00:04 PM

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I think you will be fine, if any the ticking will help you keep you grounded in case that you are really confused and need some signs of reality.
 
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#5 Posted : 3/11/2014 11:13:25 PM

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I've ha the hum of refrigerators, air conditioners and the like become the 'carrier wave' that transports me into hyperspace. The sounds, like all sound-music, whatever it may be- becomes a moot point once I'm there since they are replaced by the voices, blips, beeps, chimes,etc of DMT-space.

One of my recent excursions took place in a room with a very loud ticking clock. I thought about removing it, but did not. Instead of becoming a carrier wave, it became sort of a countdown-tic-tok-tic-tok-LIFT-OFF! Upon re-entry, it became sort of the opposite,a timer reminding me of this reality and that my time was to leave was imminent.

On another recent DMT trip, I had full-on entity contact and interaction. I was embraced and held by loving arms of some hyperspacial being, that showed me sources of my pain and then threw the images into a black-hole looking thing in front of me. All of the sudden there was a sound similar to that of a clock that became faster and faster, and more higher pitched. When it reached a certain point of intensity, the being let me know I had no time left, and out had to go as well. Then I opened my eyes and it was all back to normal.

Clocks are a reminder of this reality, whether that's good or bad.
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#6 Posted : 3/12/2014 12:06:35 AM

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It's actually funny cause no less than a minute ago I was just posting in another thread about avoiding fans, fridge motors, etc...for just these reasons. I wouldn't want ticking clocks near me on experiences. In fact I have a very nice ticking clock that I've taken the batteries out of because it drives me crazy all the time. Sound whether it's in the form of music or not can affect hyperspace very directly. I avoid repetitive sounds because I feel that they can entrain the experience and create undesirable loops.
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#7 Posted : 3/12/2014 2:00:19 AM

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I have had varying views on sound and the hyperspace experience. I love music, and initially on my journeys with spice I used well planned out playlists for my journeys. Music was most useful as a lead-in and lead-out to the journey and could add an interesting colouring to the journey. Most of the time I found that the music disappeared in the peak of the journey, but sometimes it actually played an integral part.

As has already been said sound from this part of reality can be useful when confused, I have found it can be something of a lifeline at times, conversely it can also make journeys more difficult for me.

For a long time now I have a fan of [as near as I can get to] complete silence. When I lived in the city I worked almost exclusively late at night or in the early hours of the morning to avoid the sound of cars, people, engines and the like. I also find even the smallest sound can be very distracting. An electrical hum, heating system, computer fan or anything else is far more prominent when it is near silent and other distractions like bright light are removed.

I think I woudl have real issues with a ticking clock, but that is just me, I don’t tend to have a ticking clock around. I think if I did it wouldn’t last long, hyperspace travels or not. I suffer from issues sleeping so constant sounds when I go to bed just serve to remind me that I can’t sleep and how much time is passing.

As I say though, we are all different. If you are comfortable with the sound of a ticking clock then it may be a useful tool to work with on your journeys. You will need to test it and find out whether it works for you or not.
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#8 Posted : 3/12/2014 1:05:53 PM

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Some interesting thoughts. I'll be sure to make a note of what effects, if any, it has. Although that could be a long time from now.
 
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#9 Posted : 3/16/2014 3:37:43 AM

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My brother took two doses yesterday and couldn't reach the peak of enlightenment then he took the batteries out of his wall clock and tried again and was able to hit the peak while in total silence.
 
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#10 Posted : 3/16/2014 3:48:39 PM

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It is probably personal, just try it out for yourself.

In my experiences on pharmahuasca, I found clock-ticking distracting. But with pharma, you're listening to the clock ticking for several hours. After a while, it sounds like a hammer on an anvil.
 
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#11 Posted : 3/17/2014 12:02:29 AM

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Generally speaking, time in itself has quite an extensive role in perception and behaviour. Psychedelics/entheogens can open you to realms of nonexistence. So, this post makes sense and for good discussion. A clock can keep you at ease during difficult experiences(as mentioned above already). I feel you can have the same experience if the clock wasn't there.. considering time merging within non-locality during such experiences.

Having that 'sense' is different for everyone. Personally, I find time completely diminishes when having a psychedelic experience.. even when I am inside near clocks. They are useful for taking notes, dosing etc but are insignificant during the experience.

My question is, how do psychedelics affect us while keeping track of time with the sun? Many ancestors utilized the sun as a way to observe directional purpose.
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