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Eschaton
#1 Posted : 3/1/2014 5:06:19 PM

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Haven't posted here in ages; thought I would share my thoroughly-revised "trip report" on my DMT ego death experiences. If you care to read, please let me know what you think; especially if you have had similar experiences. Cheers!

http://wedietoremember.c...at_We_Live_to_Forget.pdf

(for those that are link-weary, I attached the file below)

"The experience of enlightenment involves a full blown epiphany of the Oneness of the Universe: time ends, Eternity is experientially realized, and subsequently, death is experienced as a transition of being; not the end of our existence, effectively eliminating any fear of dying. We realize - as a fundamental truth - that we are eternally-recurring beings. The person thus raptured experiences the death of his ego; his merely limited sense of self is totally dissolved, enabling him to comprehend for the first time the Ground of All Being; the Eternal Universe, of which he understands that he is..."

Disclaimer for those who may shoot from the hip:

"As a general preface before going any further, please let it be duly noted that I am acutely aware of the highly speculative nature of this text. I do not wish to be taken unequivocally, as I have remained as objective as possible when considering the congruence of this idea with reality. I openly admit that I could be completely wrong in my interpretation of my experiences. To me, the idea of the Eternal Recurrence has become a provocative thought experiment and not something that I am futilely attempting to validate with anecdotal proof, as I am most aware that no such absolute answer exists in regards to the question herein posed. The following, if read as a psychological treatise masquerading as a scientific truth, will most certainly be digested as a most sour and unpalatable theory at best. However, if looked at with a healthy sense of skepticism and an open mind, this theory can be very thought provoking indeed. To those who have experienced particular moments in their lives that give weight to such thinking, the idea takes on a peculiar psychological momentum that is quite uncanny; such moments are discussed in the ensuing pages. For those that dismiss this central idea immediately off-hand, you may simply stop here."

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#2 Posted : 3/1/2014 7:36:06 PM

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You're quoted paragraph is what i understand life to be Smile the realization when it hits you is like digging up an old memory which has always been there. It's so exciting and comforting to know it. Cheers Eschaton!
 
#3 Posted : 3/2/2014 2:55:16 AM
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I know alot was quoted from various philosophers and the like, but everything you described hits especially close to my own experiences.

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Eschaton
#4 Posted : 3/2/2014 3:17:58 AM

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Thank you both for taking the time to read it. I appreciate your kind feedback. Thumbs up
 
Warrior
#5 Posted : 3/3/2014 11:02:54 PM

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I like this write-up and collection of insightful quotes. I relate to the part about the "Cosmic Joke." I can relate because I've felt that way a number of times. It all seems to be a riddle put on for fun. But the riddle is so good that there is no solution in the consensus reality, and instead you are left to look in the mirror of life around you trying to find clues you can never find.

I have mixed feelings about reuniting with other spirits after death, only because everything I've ever witnessed has been in the form of pure, isolated emotion, and of repeating foreverness of infinitely epic proportions. I relate to your sentiments on reincarnation, but in my mind it is more mathematically grounded. I don't yet have the best explanation for that yet.

I thoroughly enjoyed reading this.

Question: How many ego-death experiences do you think you've had in your lifetime? I don't just mean psychedelics necessarily. I ask because I've had a few of these experiences in my life, either by near-death, or by pushing myself so hard during an endurance event that my ego collapsed, and then saw my entire lifetime flash before my eyes, changing everything forever after.
 
Eschaton
#6 Posted : 3/4/2014 6:41:33 PM

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Warrior wrote:
I thoroughly enjoyed reading this.

Question: How many ego-death experiences do you think you've had in your lifetime? I don't just mean psychedelics necessarily. I ask because I've had a few of these experiences in my life, either by near-death, or by pushing myself so hard during an endurance event that my ego collapsed, and then saw my entire lifetime flash before my eyes, changing everything forever after.


Thank you for reading!

It is difficult to say how many times I have experienced ego-death, but it is safe to say over a dozen times. With mushrooms, only once, along with LSD; with DMT, I experienced it many times - a few of them were more intense than others. So really, as far as how much they affected me, I would say 5 to 6 of these experiences will never be forgotten.
 
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#7 Posted : 3/6/2014 12:09:25 AM

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Thank you Eschaton for starting this thread. This topic is very close to my heart and I think important to our evolution.

If I may, I`d like to add my take on ego death to this conversation. As has been said so many times, how do you put something so ineffable into words? What I have learned I am truly grateful for and give my ultimate respect to the plant teachers, Ayahuasca, Wachuma, Psylocibe`s and Cannabis, and to the people that have facilitated and helped me integrate.

I view the Ego as like a fog that surrounds us energetically as well as mentally. It literally clouds our vision and colours it with our social conditioning. What upholds the Ego? The inner dialogue. We constantly create our personal view of reality by telling ourselves what is. The voice in our heads creates the fog/ego and keeps us from being fully present.

The fog clouds our view of the ultimate reality, that we are all connected to everything. When I have been able to truly quiet the mind chatter, through the use of entheogens, I have been amazed at the connection I found within my self and with everything that surrounded me. From other people present to plants and animals. And what is felt is wonder and what I would call true love, unconditional. A feeling of wow what have I been missing! I also know from my experiences, that when you are in a state of feeling this connection it is palpable to those in your presence. The light inside of us is literally able to shine forth unimpeded. The fog is not dispersing the light. There is no confusion in communication, and we are our true self, totally honest, with nothing to try and defend or make excuses for, nothing to win or lose. We just are what we are. It`s all good.

I understand the felt need to delineate the experience. I think every person on the planet needs to have at least one taste of ego death, or even know that it is possible and maybe what to expect when it happens. It is incredibly healing. The collective ego`s are what is causing all the suffering and destruction in my opinion.
We are our hearts
 
 
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