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Anxietic
#1 Posted : 2/27/2014 3:41:43 PM
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Well, a few days ago i smoked about 30-35mg DMT after i took 0.5mg xanax a few hours before. I gotta say it was one of my favorite experiences, i layed on couch, dark room with only my GF layin 1m away with laptop light, took 1 hit, held it, saw room a bit different but was very calm, so took another hit. After this something i never experienced happened - room started changing, wall in front of me was like a tv and someone was changing channels. It was very warm and chill experience, every other time i have smoked it - too fast and couldn't remember pretty much anything and was just left with what just happened feeling.

I suffer from social anxiety so xanax makes me " normal ". I'd like to know if someone has done something similar and can tell how much or if it took away much from experience?
 

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#2 Posted : 2/27/2014 7:03:17 PM

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Since you're not doing anything potentially harmful to your'e body and you seem to have really enjoyed your experience Id say go for it and see where it leads you.

Yes, Xanax will effect a dmt experience usually in the form of difficulties breaking through and lack luster visuals but its still DMT and pretty strong by nature.

The xanax sounds to have helped you relax and possibly put your mind in a good state and direction for a launch. This can be very beneficial lesson, what a difference being able to relax to the experience can be.

If you ever found yourself "stuck" in a rut of mediocre ho hum launches you may want to cut out the xanax as much as possible but discuss cutting back or stopping with your doctor if these are prescribed meds.

Benzo's are highly addictive and physical dependence withdrawal can be life threatening to anyone that has developed a physical dependency to xanax.
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Anxietic
#3 Posted : 2/27/2014 7:44:42 PM
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olympus mon wrote:
Since you're not doing anything potentially harmful to your'e body and you seem to have really enjoyed your experience Id say go for it and see where it leads you.

Yes, Xanax will effect a dmt experience usually in the form of difficulties breaking through and lack luster visuals but its still DMT and pretty strong by nature.

The xanax sounds to have helped you relax and possibly put your mind in a good state and direction for a launch. This can be very beneficial lesson, what a difference being able to relax to the experience can be.

If you ever found yourself "stuck" in a rut of mediocre ho hum launches you may want to cut out the xanax as much as possible but discuss cutting back or stopping with your doctor if these are prescribed meds.

Benzo's are highly addictive and physical dependence withdrawal can be life threatening to anyone that has developed a physical dependency to xanax.


They are prescribed but i take them very rarely these days, used to take way more often but i quit cold turkey without any problems. I took them daily for a while before sleep cause i slept better with very vivid dreams.
Thanks for your feedback, i'll give it a try and if i don't get where i want, then first i'll try with 0.25mg xanax and if still won't do it, try without it again and see which i like more.
I haven't broken through yet and so it's hard accurately say how much xanax takes away from my experience. I have actually only tried once or twice with dose like 40-50mg, using the machine. With that dose there was something different and i remember getting confused and it was kinda scary or unwelcoming maybe? But i really cant remember why.
 
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#4 Posted : 2/27/2014 8:46:37 PM

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Anxietic wrote:

I haven't broken through yet and so it's hard accurately say how much xanax takes away from my experience. I have actually only tried once or twice with dose like 40-50mg, using the machine. With that dose there was something different and i remember getting confused and it was kinda scary or unwelcoming maybe? But i really cant remember why.

Sounds like you may need to work on your technique, or the Xanax is having a really significant impact on the effects of the DMT. Most people break through on about 30mg. The effects you described sound like those of a 5-10mg dose.
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#5 Posted : 2/27/2014 11:17:53 PM
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Anxietic wrote:

I haven't broken through yet and so it's hard accurately say how much xanax takes away from my experience. I have actually only tried once or twice with dose like 40-50mg, using the machine. With that dose there was something different and i remember getting confused and it was kinda scary or unwelcoming maybe? But i really cant remember why.

Sounds like you may need to work on your technique, or the Xanax is having a really significant impact on the effects of the DMT. Most people break through on about 30mg. The effects you described sound like those of a 5-10mg dose.


Maybe i'm real bad with describing, but i have done 10-15mg without xanax before, with that i felt it but didn't get any NOTICABLE visuals. At about 20mg is where i first felt its power with CEV's but really nothing special or atleast i can't remember. At 40mg i was more gone and something was different but still - couldn't make anything out of that trip, no awe or feeling or beauty, i just remember getting confused and didn't understand what's happening and if it will end.

But last trip with xanax - it came on very nicely, very natural and first time i swear i saw a entity appear from wall and then dissapear into wall, atleast that was my first thought. For first time my experience felt happy and i couldn't believe what my eyes were seeing. The dose i got was about 20mg i think, i had loaded 30-40mg but i wasted one hit cause i wasn't planning on smoking it, thought i'd smoke only 1 hit and see if it works..was very weak experience and right after coming down i smoked what was left - 2 hits. If i had smoked it all first time - i think i would of had an amazing experience. I really wanted to smoke more but i didn't bring more DMT with me sadly.
 
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#6 Posted : 2/28/2014 1:18:27 AM

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I was on xanax, and later klonopin, for a total of ~12 years. I took a slow 2 years of tapering off (a tough 2 years with a lot of tension), and have been off all benzos for several months now. Life is better without them. That's all I will say. I didn't figure that out until I took the last bottle of them, and rather than take one every once in a blue moon 'as needed,' I flushed them. It wasn't until after I didn't have anymore, and had no more refills, and had turned the chapter in my life did I see what an anchor and veil that was to me. I realized my anxiety got worse walking around thinking I should take a benzo every time I felt the slightest sign of anxiety. It turns out that facing your emotions head on is infinitely more rewarding and prosperous in the long run, in my humble opinion.

 
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#7 Posted : 2/28/2014 9:14:17 AM

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One of my favourite dmt experiences was 60mg and 2mg of etizolam. I broke through completely and it was really lovely. The only problem was that I started chasing that feeling, and many subsequent experiences involved etizolam to some degree which IMO is extremely bad! It's hard enough remembering a breakthrough on dmt alone nevermind adding benzos. Benzos turn the experience into a fun carnival ride which sounds great but it's really detracting from the medicinal qualities of dmt.
 
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#8 Posted : 2/28/2014 11:00:25 AM

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One of my favourite dmt experiences was 60mg and 2mg of etizolam. I broke through completely and it was really lovely. The only problem was that I started chasing that feeling, and many subsequent experiences involved etizolam to some degree which IMO is extremely bad! It's hard enough remembering a breakthrough on dmt alone nevermind adding benzos. Benzos turn the experience into a fun carnival ride which sounds great but it's really detracting from the medicinal qualities of dmt.

This is very similar to my (admittedly somewhat limited) experience with DMT + benzodiazepines/thienodiazepines, from what I can recall.
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#9 Posted : 2/28/2014 3:38:31 PM
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Imo, to the OP, if the experience is 'too fast' per say, you can always look into making changa, or taking a light dose of caapi/rue maoi beforehand. Changa slows the experience down to a much 'easier to integrate' degree versus just straight freebase.

Personally, Id never use any form of benzo in order to smooth over the rough edges of the experience. Sometimes, the most rough of experiences end up lending the most insight and long-lasting benefit.

Not saying insight/benefits can't be had while under the benzo/dmt combo, just saying that I think there's definitely some potential being missed out on as far as growth, understanding, and development goes in the DMT experience.

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#10 Posted : 2/28/2014 4:04:05 PM

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I would be untrue to myself if I didn't add a little more to this.

Using any benzo before and during any kind of trip makes it harder to remember.

I've tried higher dose klonopin with ayahuasca, and a few years ago tried high(er) dose xanax with a very long and powerful trip on pharma-grade hyoscyamine. In all honesty, I have to say that a trip is still a trip--good or bad, anything is still possible. It may add a little 'buoyancy' to your mood, but only slightly so. But I also know that these experiences came long after I learned the limited capacity of benzos to help me in my life; benzos were no longer my friend and ally at that point in my life.

The most profound thing they did for me was put massive holes in my memory.
 
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#11 Posted : 2/28/2014 5:47:37 PM

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Warrior wrote:
I was on xanax, and later klonopin, for a total of ~12 years. I took a slow 2 years of tapering off (a tough 2 years with a lot of tension), and have been off all benzos for several months now. Life is better without them. That's all I will say. I didn't figure that out until I took the last bottle of them, and rather than take one every once in a blue moon 'as needed,' I flushed them. It wasn't until after I didn't have anymore, and had no more refills, and had turned the chapter in my life did I see what an anchor and veil that was to me. I realized my anxiety got worse walking around thinking I should take a benzo every time I felt the slightest sign of anxiety. It turns out that facing your emotions head on is infinitely more rewarding and prosperous in the long run, in my humble opinion.


This is so true.
Reading your words made me very happy. That was very brave of you flushing the last script. It may have been one of the most important things you have ever done. Thumbs up
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#12 Posted : 2/28/2014 7:31:22 PM

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olympus mon wrote:

This is so true.
Reading your words made me very happy. That was very brave of you flushing the last script. It may have been one of the most important things you have ever done. Thumbs up


Thank you, olympus mon! Big grin
 
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#13 Posted : 2/28/2014 8:42:46 PM
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You could always try Lemon Balm tea for calming the anxiety. I add Lemon Balm to my Ayahuasca and i've noticed it not only eased the anxiety caused by the Harmalas, but also allowed for a little smoother come up from the DMT. I've even thought about adding some Lemon Balm tea with Shrooms (whenever i try Shrooms, that is) to see where that goes. But yeah, the Lemon Balm doesn't take away from the visual aspect, and i feel it actually sorta increases visual activity. Lemon Balm inhibits GABA-Transaminase which increases the amount of GABA in the brain. I of course wouldn't use too much Lemon Balm, but i've used 4 to 6 grams of dried Lemon Balm to good success.
 
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#14 Posted : 3/1/2014 5:26:08 PM
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THANKS for your input sweet people. I hope i'll experience atleast one time true the wonders of DMT and learn something from it.
 
 
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