Hi guys im new to the nexus but have been lurking around for quite a while I finally thought Id take the dive in and sign up when I wanted to view some pictures uploaded by another member.

swim has performed two extractions from Acacia Confusa, first was on 100 grams of powdered bark second, 250 grams powdered bark. Both extractions swim deems as a semi fail. First extract no crystals ended being collected, and due to frustration solvent was discarded (i know bad move).
Second Extraction went much smoother and ended up with what was thought to be a phenomenal yield with beautiful sparkly white crystals, however once weighed, the mass of crystals obtained was found only to be around 350mg or .14%. Upon loading about 70mg of it into an oil burner (meth pipe) and vaping, breakthrough was not able to be obtained. Things definitely felt very strange but no visuals whatsoever and a creeping feeling of fear slowly overtook so swim stopped. At this point swim is still very determined to get an acceptable and obtain breakthrough but now is looking for more efficient methods to preform extract. Possessing a chemical background swim plans on making an attempt via twisselmann or soxhlet extraction. Swims last two extractions followed the methods outlined below, no specific tek was used but rather guidance from them was used combined with chemical background.

1. Prepare 1L of 3pH solution from 5% acetic acid (vinegar) and distilled water
2. Bark was placed into cotton cloth bag (like a tea bag), submerged in 3 pH solution and heated in crock pot for 4 hours
a. Bark tea bag was wrung out and mixture was collected in Erlenmeyer flask
b. Repeat step 2 twice more
3. Filter contents of bark mixture by gravity filtration into Erlenmeyer flask making sure to rinse flask and filter paper with small quantities of 3pH solution, place contents of filtrate in fridge overnight
4. Filter off remaining sediments from cold bark solution
5. Reduce solution over heat until desirable volume is obtained
6. Transfer bark solution to a separatory funnel and let set until it reaches room temperature.
7. Heat 300mL heptane until hot but not boiling, in hot water bath (defating)
a. Add 100 mL of hot Heptane to separatory funnel containing bark solution
b. Swirl slowly and then let sit until separation occurs
c. Collect the lower aqueous layer and discard top organic layer
d. Repeat step 7 twice more
8. Prepare 200mL of 13pH solution from NaOH and distilled water (something that swim noticed was that pH doesn’t seem like too reliable of a method (unless you have a very high accuracy pH meter) in this step due to emulsions, rather concentration in Molarity should be used. One thing swim couldn’t find though was if too high of a pH destroys DMT. Some people are saying yes while others are saying no) none the less swim noticed using a high concentration of NaOH greatly reduced emulsions.
9. Add contents of bark mixture to separatory funnel rinsing with 13pH solution and slowly add 13pH solution swirling until mixture turned deep red, almost appeared black.
10. Heat 300mL Heptane until hot but not boiling in hot water bath
a. Add 100mL of hot Heptane to separatory funnel and swirl
b. Let separatory sit until two distinct layers form
c. Drain off bottom layer and collect top layer
d. Add contents of bottom layer back to separatory funnel
e. Repeat step 10 twice more
11. After all of the top layer has been collected place contents into separatory funnel
12. Make mixture of sodium carbonate `1-2 grams and 25 mL distilled water and add contents of this to separatory funnel, shake and drain and discard lower aqueous layer
13. Add 25 mL distilled water to separatory funnel and shake, drain lower aqueous layer and repeat once more
14. Pour contents of separatory funnel into crystallizing dish, cover and set in freezer for 48 hours until crystallization occurs.
15. Decant solvent through filter paper making sure to collect any loose crystals and turn crystallization dish on side while in freezer to allow any remaining solvent to drip off into filter paper.
16. Crystallization dish is removed from freezer and thin porous material placed over dish while fan blows over to evaporate any remaining solvent.

Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Have you had a chance to use any yet?

according to my theory, basifying through adding lye, is the biggest step in the process. If you add 1 salt at a time until you are done adding, it will probably only do better than worse, such as have a better dry/wet disperse and less lye poisons

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Pleas try to write in understandable English,your not adding much to the discussion with the posts like these.

to the OP,

Although the process outlined will work to some degree, i thing your yield will not be that great. I suggest you use an stb tek with 100 grams of bark, this should yield anything between 1 and 2 grams of white fluff.

Then use your chemistry skills to further purify that product.

Finally the oil burner is the worst method of smoking get a vapor genie and break though on 20 mg.

From everything read, acid/base is the more precise method to go, straight to base seems more like a cutting corners tek to simplify the process, ending up with a less pure product. Of course this can be alleviated by re-crystallization.

On another note the use of an oil burner seems to be more of an art than anything, thus requiring proper technique in order to achieve optimum results. So simply put, more practice into technique will simply need to be mastered in that area.

Another attempt at breaking through was attempted and failed with around .1g of pure crystal. Substance simply must be getting destroyed upon heating so much more caution and preparation need to be applied.

For a third extraction yields still seem to be low (only getting .3g from 100g bark). Bark is cooked 5 separate times in crock put with vinegar/distilled water mixture, each for a period of 4-6 hours then collected. After final collection mixture is reduced to manageable amount via simmering for several hours. Bark mixture is then gravity filtered to remove as much sediment as possible and then defatted with hexane.

A concentrated NaOH solution with distilled water is prepared and then added to reduced bark achieving a pH of 13-14 in which the bark turns a deep red almost black color. 6 pulls are carried out with hot hexane and then freeze precipitated for 48 hours. around a .3% yield is being collected which is well below all the yields read about which range from 1.5-3%. Bark quality may be the issue, however three separate ones already have been tried.

Noone here at the Nexus will recommend 100mg doses...this is reckless and shouldn't be attempted.
Convection vaping of crystal freebase will have grand results in the region of 15-20mg.

Your vaping method could use a little work. The Nexus has all the info you'll need.
Also there is no discussion of vendors here, thanks.
Happy reading.

only reason such a high amount is used is because it was read acacia confusa contains around a 50/50 mix of nn and nmt, so your average crystal isnt as concentrated as ones generated from mhrb. on top of this smaller dosages were used (50mg) and almost no feelings were experienced, higher dosages (100mg) yields a very strange sensation a sorta of buzzing of the entire body almost feelings as if one is sinking through what is being sat on. Again it is acknowledged that vaporization methods probably need be worked on

So another attempt was made to break through and this was the most intense yet. The wall in front began to flex as if it was breathing, everything began to become pixelated as if it was taking on a geometric hexagon pattern, then things began to melt. Posters and TV screens began to warp and drip to the floor. Things got most intense when the entire surrounding became one spherical hexagon kaleidoscope based construct. It pulsed to the sounds of the surrounding and in a way felt as if one’s mind and body were attached to it and pulsing along with it. A feeling of great discomfort came on almost like that rush you experience when you’re going very fast on an amusement park ride. It felt as if the sounds of the environment were too much and completely overwhelmed ones senses, a great deal of effort was made to remain calm and right when it felt like the body was about to be pulled apart the sensations lessened and slowly began to fade back to normality.

Oil burner was used this time but with more care, Standard BIC lighter was also used since a torch one couldn’t be obtained at the time. Around 70mg were used but certainly not all used up at once, it was almost impossible to. As heat was applied the crystals melted and became a liquid, then some of the liquid became vapor while the remainder of the liquid began to run from the flame and coat part of the bowl. Since the entire 70mg was not able to be vaporized in one shot around 8 separate shots were made between 3 people over the course of an hour or so. Strangely the smoke was not as harsh or bad tasting as read, there was an initial harshness but if one were to just ignore that, the rest came in smooth. The other people didn’t feel the same and began coughing and choking over the smallest of drags, however they did feel an experience, not as intense as one describes above though. At this point the issue seems to be the uptake, more if it needs to be uptaked in one go in order to breakthrough and it seems like around 20-25mg should do it.

Acacia confusa extractions do not always yield a 50/50 mix of NMT and DMT. The ones that do usually yield an oily or waxy product that will not crystallize. Judging only by your picture, I would be very surprised if there was much NMT in your yield, if any at all.

Even with flawless technique, conduction vaporizers will still not be as efficient or reliable as convection.

Last, but certainly not least, please read The Attitude Page and edit your post to remove the vendor discussion.

Edit: As far as your extraction goes, I would recommend you do more pulls with less solvent. Unless I overlooked something, it would appear that you are only performing 3x 100ml pulls. 10x 30ml pulls would likely be much more effective.

I'm curious, why do you suggest an STB with ACRB, when the common knowledge is that an A/B is the way to go? Out of curiosity, I performed an STB on around 100 grams of powdered HA ACRB, and yielded yellow oil, when usually I get clear goo, or chrysalis that melt, but whose effects are greatly enjoyed.
What is your experience that makes you suggest that extraction route and what does the a quantity of bark have to do with it?

Any recommendations on a convection device? Ive read about the glass vapor genie but it seems a bit pricy for its simplistic design.

I didn't mean to violate any rules only to suggest that there may be a problem with my initial starting point aka the bark.

Modifications have been made where 6 pulls with a total of around 200 mL of hot solvent are used then a final pull where all the solvent used is re-heated and added back to bark mixture and heavily shook for around 15-20 seconds. Mixture is left to rest until two phases are clearly formed and emulsions have mostly left. Aqueus layer is then removed leaving only slightly behind, then sodium carbonate wash is added and shaken, followed by multiple distilled water washes until aqueus layer comes back clear. Organic layer is then poured into a pyrex crystallization dish covered and placed in freezer to freeze precipitate for several days.

couldn't help it

Breakthrough was finally achieved with the use of a torch lighter and oil burner. This was perhaps the most visually and mentally intense experience ones ever felt in their entire life. It started with the room beginning to enlarge itself and all the colors draining from the environment. The room became a cube with all of the appliances and furniture taking on a block shape. The people also took on cartoonish block appearances with emotionless faces staring constantly without break. There was a constant pulsing of the environment that was accompanied with a loud but somewhat peaceful buzzing noise which moved in sync with the pulsing. Then one was gone, everything after this point one cannot explain in words, the feelings that ran through the body were extraordinarily intense, this caused panic. In the background an electronic voice repeated a phrase that one wasn’t able to hear. The glasses on ones face became alien and uncomfortable to wear or hold and were tossed away. Then after a while hands and body parts started to reform slowly as individual particles of mater clumped back together and formed them

Proposed extraction for future use. From theory it seems as if it would be highly efficient.



1. Bark material is placed into a thimble a large thimble and set up for a Twisselmann extraction.
a. 1000mL Round Bottom flask is used filled with appropriate amount of methanol
b. Apparatus is allowed to run until solvent begins to come back clear.

2. Fractional distillation of Alkaloid saturated methanol in distilled water is performed
a. Apparatus is ran until the majority of all the methanol has been removed and the
Alkaloids have migrated to the water.

3. Acid (HCL or Acetic) is added to Alkaloid solution until pH reaches `2.5

4. Defat is performed with Hexane
a. Alkaloid solution is washed small amounts of hot hexane several times, each time
separating and discarding the organic upper layer (hexane)

5. Alkaloid solution is basified with concentrated sodium hydroxide until the pH raises above
10 (higher pH causes less emulsions)

6. DMT is pulled from aqueous Alkaloid solution with Hexane
a. Several washes of Alkaloid solution with Hexane are performed.
b. Upper organic layer (hexane) is collected and saved after each wash.

7. Freeze precipitation is performed
a. Alkaloid containing hexane solution is placed into a large crystallization dish, covered
and stored in freezer for several days until white crystals form and solution is clear.

An acceptable yield has finally been obtained after going through many separate sources. 100g of acacia confusa inner root bark gave 1.6g of beautifully white crystal.

Also a note for a technique change for dealing with emulsions and speeding up separations. Once a distinct layer forms which separated aqueous layer from emulsion and organic layer, aqueous layer is drained and emulsion along with organic layer is collected. This is done several times until all the solvent has been used. The collected emulsion and organic layer is then heated in a hot water bath and all added back to the aqueous bark mixture and aqueous layer is then drained up to where the emulsions begins.

Several sodium carbonate washes are done until most of the emulsions are gone. Then organic layer is washed with distilled water until it comes out crystal clear. Organic layer is then poured into crystallization dish and covered to freeze precipitate.