well if the authorities say it, then it must be true.

... This is a pretty funny vid. As someone who has used Marijuana recreationally for the past 3-4 years (and I believe that it's been a legitimate aid to my mental health), I would have probably would have been aggravated seeing this a few years ago. But now the public opinion has shifted so far, seeing the little freakouts and propagation of blatantly false information (evident in this video), all you can really do is laugh.

I believe that it's only a matter of time until it's fully legal (not just medicinally legal).

As rediculous as this article is, it is true that some people abuse psychedelics out of escapism motivations.
However these people will abuse any drug they can get their hands on. And if these escapists were given the choice, they'd allways choose Amphetamines, Cocaine &/or Opiates as these are drugs most suitable for escaping reality.

Pyschedelics actually have a rather confronting nature. If someone is in denial of certain negative aspects of themselves or the reality around them, psychedelics are most likely to break this denial and confront the user with said negative aspects of life. So DMT as an escape drug; Most unlikely. Maybe for a select, misguided few, but I don't see this problem becomming endemic


The prooof of this concept: My very first Psychedelic experience was with Cubensis mushrooms. It was a very bad trip, that was ultimately my salvation from my self. I had up till then decently been abusing MDMA. Wreckless, escapism fed by a deep sense of purposelessness and depression lead me into that abuse. Mushrooms confronted me with my wrecklessness. With my irresponsible dangerious abuse of MDMA. I was shocked and went bad due to the painfull realisation, but ultimately came out more sane the other end. I immediately halted my abuse of MDMA. Havn't done it since and never felt the need either.

That 1 horrific mushroom trip tuned me into Psychedelics forever. I would from then on only do safe drugs, responsibly, with the intent to heal and to explore the psyche. So my personal experience with mushrooms is that they actually ENDED my escapism by smacking reality in my face. Quite the opposite from what that article would have people believe.


I think we should give counterweight to this propaganda with the Nexian; Add interviews of people who were helped OUT of Denial and escapism by Psychedelics, instead of into it as this article suggests. I'm sure many Nexians can bare witness to Psychedelics, most notably DMT, breaking escapism and making us more grounded, sane people.

You are making the same brand of assumptions about this man that he is making about you, and us. And you are using not very credible hyperbole ("it is simple fact", and inferring that he considers you a "junkie" ) in doing so. Stick to the rest of your post which is informative, edifying and overwhelmingly positive. You have no way of knowing how radically differently you see the world than he does based on those few short quotes in a news article.

The only thing he is guilty of is slight generalization based on what colleagues have likely told him and what he has read about it in the news. Let's educate people like this instead of denigrating them.

I'll go even further and say I actually AGREE with at least half of what he says:

"It’s a drug that people look towards using, because it does give them a different perspective of what life is..." The second half I disagree with, but see it as our mission that people like this have more information.

"The problem is, the more you use it, the more you get away from what reality is,"

I agree and think the strength of DMT is that it challenges what we believe is and call REALITY, but it is also one of the very potent dangers of it also. The second half of that statement, "...it allows them to run away from the realities of life", is also true in some cases, so is not patently false.

"Now it’s trickling down to teenagers".

I also agree with this and agree with this forum's stance that having teenagers doing DMT is a bad thing. This is one of the reasons we have an over 18 policy, the other being for obvious legal reasons.

So ultimately, he only says one thing I actually disagree with:

"And you start to then hate reality, so that’s why the abuse potential continues." It may actually be true in some cases (though I doubt it), so he is really only guilty, again, of generalizing.

I don't think he is a worthy target for your condescension or your condemnation.

And I repeat, I agree with the rest of your post and am very happy DMT has had that effect on your life. Now let's make sure more people know about it.

Cheers,

JBArk

EDIT: I just reread the end of your post:

"You've spent way too much money and way too much time in classrooms being programmed to think a certain way; there's no way you could take the risk of proving what deep down you've always known: that you've largely wasted your life."

Really? Wow...

My post was more for fun, not to inform. The hyperbole is used on purpose. The condemnation is somewhat ironic. The comparison to his view of us and my cartoon view of him was done on purpose. Two polarities dancing together. I'm sure I failed in getting all that across.......do try not to take my posts too seriously, mostly I write them simply because I like to write.......the fake response letter to Ayers is a writing practice. It was just for fun, I wouldn't actually respond to someone like I did: I know ayers will never read this thread, so I had some fun at his expense, to put a smile on my face.

I am a fiction author by trade.

Well you wrote it in a serious tone with no hints at all that it was "ironic", or a caricature, or tongue in cheek. I don't really know how anyone could get that from your post. It actually resembles many angry posts I see here in tone, vocabulary and content.

And more importantly, if that is the case and you don't really endorse what you wrote, I am not sure I really get your point... What am I missing? Not trying to start a fight at all - I am just trying to understand what angers you in what he is quoted as saying, or if it does not really anger you, why the post that suggests it does?

JBArk

The tone isn't serious sounding to me, but maybe because I wrote it with a humorous smile. I thought the line: "I have grown beyond your tiny concept of 'reality' ", among many others, were quite tongue-in-cheek and ironic.

And it's not a matter of me "endorsing" what I wrote, there are no real points made, it was just a fake response letter, a literary exercise, curls with a typewriter, so to speak; An unedited break from my real-world writing duties. Perhaps I'll stick to writing short stories here on the nexus instead of getting involved in debates I really don't care about.

http://www.wxyz.com/news...le-in-msu-students-death

I love how they went on YouTube and found some random trip report and then quoted it in there article.
I feel bad for the kid.
Also one of the comments said that kids were doing DMT to escape how bad Obama is! Ha

Any time I see media reports on psychedelic drugs, I always shudder and cringe at every incorrect fact, or half-truth. :/
I concur, I feel bad for him. I imagine it was all a bad coincidence, and was definitely something else he took, or something completely unrelated.
DMT gives me an exuberance for life! this forum and community in itself is a testament to that fact!
I would HOPE law enforcement aren't so incompetent to simply find a twitter post, and cancel any toxicology report or autopsy.
Detective: "All right boys, this one solves itself. Cancel that toxicology report, the donuts are on me!"

Darn...
Some one always beats me to posting! Hahaha

What a difference a month makes:Turns out DMT had essentially nothing to do with it.

Irresponsible journalism at its finest...

Are you telling me those experts were wrong?
I am shocked. SHOCKED. Okay, i`m not that shocked

Yea the sad part is most will probably only hear about how DMT "killed someone."

The mainstream media is full of BS and lies. Hardly anything they say can be taken as truth entirely. This is even more true for a lot of the "alternative" media. Very few reliable sources these days.

The question was basically, "did DMT play a role in MSU student's death?"
Yet, the report ends with, "Police are treating this as a homicide."

sad

quote from the doctor "The more a person uses it, the more they are taken away from what reality really is" ... hmm, i guess he hasn't tried it... the more i us it(vapor, orally), the more i realize what my reality is and see the inner workings... it is a shame that there is a misconception relating to dmt... for starters one should have a moment to think why dmt is in our brain, and in nearly every living thing... yet it is being portrayed as a danger to society... maybe a society based around common usage within the social norm would definitely change peoples perspective and perhaps save us all... it has saved me.

This.

Totally a great point, not only that, but even if stiff clinicians poo-poo explorers of the mind as invalid, they still function within a matrix of mysterious circumstances called reality, and that reality is questionable at its very core of occurrence.

This is really sad, nothing suggests the kid's dead was related to DMT, this was obviously a great opportunity to draw negative attention to DMT.

Out of all great things to be said about it they chose this...

"The walls grew, like I’m talking the walls were like…woosh, woosh…they shrunk and grew,"

On one side it's positive that after all these years nothing really negative can be said about DMT, it's only sad they try to slander it this way, a sceptic person will no doubt see right through this dull tactic, but most people aren't too sceptic.

Many in the media get so reactionary about drugs, which is hilarious considering most journalists are dosed to the eyeballs on booze and cocaine.

We actually had the Daily Mail, the infamous UK newspaper which promotes right wing bias, come out and claim someone died from smoking a spliff a few months back.

http://www.dailymail.co....g-smoking-joint-bed.html