it depends how well you can stir it, a magnetic stirrer seems to work very well but they create quite a considerable vortex in the based soup, there was a report not to long ago about only needing 2 pulls to deplete the bark of all the Magic but I cant remember who posted it. I guess a slow stir would just take a lot of pulls as the contact between the soup and the solvent would be quite low

cant you just get an extraction bottle with a decent lid? Maybe a wine bottle as cyb suggested as it has a cork stopper.

Yeah stirring is no problem, you can also use stainless steel, like a spoon or whatever. A glass rod might break or might be too thin to make a nice vortex? Try it out carefully.. But yeah chances are you have stainless steel spoons that you can use..

Just try to make sure as you stir, it`s creating a nice vortex in the middle and the layers are being mixed together well so that you dont even see the top layer anymore as you stir. Do a few cycles of stirring and letting stand before separating the non polar solvent.

I have stirred several times instead of shaking or rolling with much success. My bark was depleted after 3 pulls instead of 5.

i have a cork cap, from other bottle, but i can use it for this one..although I was under the impression that lye eats off cork? Am i mistaken?



yep, i had in mind it would have to be something like that - where the center of the vortex submerges at a lower surface level compared to the periphery of the mix - not very well explained, but you got the idea



i'll try it myself this time

Hi guys ,, I'm having a few melting problems with my ACRB using both hybrid salt TEK and the max-ion TEK and was thinking maybe I'm having the naphtha ( shellitte ) to deep in the dish ( 10mm deep ) and maybe not freezing long enough approx 18-24hrs could I maybe let the naphtha pre evap to just enough naphtha to cover the bottom or it doesn't really matter how deep it is ?? And should I freeze precipe longer , as I'm sick to death if watching it just melt away ! 😞

How does it melt away? Does it turn into a goo and any crystals that form are absorbed into the goo, or does it just turn into liquid at room temp. If the latter is true then your crystals could have water frozen in them, in which case just let it dry a little more. Another thing that might be is that there is naptha on it still and at a high enough temp can absorb some dmt before crystalizing it by drying it off after a freeze. If this is the case, you do the same thing as before.. Just let it dry a bit longer. If the former is true then you could defat to remove some oils so its not a goo. Your dish can't ever really be too deep. That shouldn't effect the crystals "melting" unless it was one of the conditions I just described. You can use a very thin long jar and freeze in that and it will form crystals just fine.

What I ment buy melting is the crystals form and are there , but when I put it in front of a cold portable air co or fan have tried both but when I try to dry it , it seems there is condensation or frost type thing that attaches to the formed crystals and it takes about 3 seconds to dissapere into a milky watery looking fluid it doesn't even dry to goo even !! It's just frustrating !!

It has to be duff bark Earthwalker...can't see any other explanation.
The teks are sound but the bark is 'questionable'
I've read of this before a few times and the bark was a different genus.

yes thank you Cyb , it must be , cause I've done everything I can and I've read reread that many threads and it all comes to the point as you said , the bark is proberly confusa bark but it's of poor quality and I think it's stem bark or it's a x breed !!

Next order is a Taiwan confusa that I no is giving good to great results especially using the max-ion TEK ,

But thank you for you're help !!

Is it ok to use an aluminium/stainless stell (I'm not sure, I think it's aluminium) dish instead of a glass dish? Or would that be a problem because of lye/solvent/whatever? I've already used the search but it talks about plastic not aluminium, so..

Thank you!

Mixing lye and aluminium is a bad idea. Stainless is OK
Glass is much better to scratch Xtals. Just be sure the glass is OK with heat/cold shock (pyrex is good).

Good luck

Few questions:

Is a wooden handle of a wooden spoon good for stirring?
Is wood something to be avoided?

And

Is a cork truly okay for sealing the bottle? I figured the solvent would have a nasty effect on the material of the cork.

Thanks for reading!

Wooden spoon is wood, cork is wood, root's bark is wood, so i don't think it's a problem. Exept if it's not plain wood, like chimicals treatment or varnish or anti-mold things.
Stainless is better IMO

For the cork, lye may erode it so watch out leaks.

It was my 2 cents, better to have an other advice.

Happy extraction !

White vinegar is the one that has cleaning purposes? I can't find any other here besides wine vinegar and apple vinegar.

White vinegar for cleaning purpose is usualy more concentrated (~15%) than basic one for cooking (~5%). You can use it, just put less in your mix.

I wonder what the likelihood is of a cooking spoon having any chemicals or treatments.

So can't you use cider vinegar (5%) instead of white vinegar (it says alcohol vinegar 8º ac.) ?

Oil can be used to make wood more beautifull. Witch kind, i don't know, so IDK either if it's harmfull or not.

Again, best bet is stainless steel

This partially a copy from a former post, posted in the wrong thread.

Problem: No crystallisation after 4 times freezing and carbonate wash

History of this extraction:
I did a mhrb extraction following Cyb's Hybrid Salt Tek. I did two pulls but had no time to complete the process. I saved the solution for half a year.

This week I continued. I did two pulls.

After freezing I noticed transparent white slimey balls were formed in combination with a lot of brown stuff on top.

Because it didn't look like normal crystals. I evaporated 80% of the nafta. And tried freezing again. But still there was only brown pudding kind of sludge.

I added extra nafta heated it. Separated the brown stuff on the bottom and tried freezing again... Still brown sludge.

So I did a Carbonate wash with two dH2O washes.
Evaporated 50%. Put it in the freezer.

Now almost 24hrs of freezing later. There are no crystals formed. Just ochre yellow fine particles on the bottom of the dish. Which are moving when you move the dish. Floating almost.

What to do? Re-X? First totally evaporate?

Without a picture or actually being there we dont know what the yellow fine particles are on the bottom of the dish but I'm willing to bet that its DMT.

You did quite a bit of cleaning up so it should be moderately clean except for dmt and plant oils. Most times when i freeze precip I dont get crystals, i just get a very fine powder.

If youre still getting globs of stuff then you maybe have some plastic contamination. A mini a/b should fix that. Reabsorb everything into some naptha, then mix it with some vinegar. Seperate the two liquids and then basify the vinegar and pull again with clean naptha. You should have a fairly decent result from that.