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Earthwalker
#41 Posted : 2/7/2014 3:44:09 PM

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Maybe in jumping the gun ,, I'd just like to try another methods as it can't hurt ,, but I'll find a way as I don't like hassling the wiser members for tid bits of info , sorry !
 

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#42 Posted : 2/7/2014 4:41:44 PM
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cyb wrote:
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should I still keep overall volume of 700ml or reduce it by say 50 ml and leave out a little of the de-ionised water?

Just top up (or reduce) the water...but leave room for the solvent and a bit of an air gap so you can slosh it all around.
Wine bottle can work well if you have a thin pipette/bastor.


Brilliant thanks mate, SWIM and SWIMs housemate are doing are first extraction tomorrow.

My only worry now is the turkey baster, I am going to test the rubber bulb with a bit of naphtha to make sure it doesn't melt!
 
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#43 Posted : 2/7/2014 7:03:12 PM
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Damn! I have just realised I can only fit 2 baking dishes in my freezer. Will it be ok to put say 2 and a half pulls in one, 2 and a half in another and evaporate a bit (maybe a third) of the naphtha before freeze precipitating?
 
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#44 Posted : 2/8/2014 10:45:24 AM
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Swim has just added the lye after the salting stage and Swim has a layer of white and dark red/black foam forming on top of the liquid in the bottle. Is this normal?
 
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#45 Posted : 2/8/2014 10:49:20 AM

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WhereEaglesDare wrote:
Damn! I have just realised I can only fit 2 baking dishes in my freezer. Will it be ok to put say 2 and a half pulls in one, 2 and a half in another and evaporate a bit (maybe a third) of the naphtha before freeze precipitating?


i had a similar question and cyb answered to me that there's no problem if you evaporate half of the naptha using a fan on the top. now for 1/3 i do not know but if you dont mind loosing your naptha i will evap 1/2.
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#46 Posted : 2/8/2014 11:20:34 AM
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boom123 wrote:
WhereEaglesDare wrote:
Damn! I have just realised I can only fit 2 baking dishes in my freezer. Will it be ok to put say 2 and a half pulls in one, 2 and a half in another and evaporate a bit (maybe a third) of the naphtha before freeze precipitating?


i had a similar question and cyb answered to me that there's no problem if you evaporate half of the naptha using a fan on the top. now for 1/3 i do not know but if you dont mind loosing your naptha i will evap 1/2.


I think he said half for you as you were only using one dish but I am using 2 so thought I may not need to evaporate half. I can do though. I suppose the more super-saturated the nps is, the easier the freeze precip is.
 
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#47 Posted : 2/11/2014 8:52:15 PM

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A good rule i use for telling when to stop evaporating your naptha and time to throw it into the fridge is just let the fan run, and keep checking on it occasionally. Once you start to see tiny tiny crystals form then you are good to go for the freeze.

You can combine as much as you want as long as it all fits. If your pan is small, then it might be good to put some of the naptha in it, evap a bit of it, then pour a little more in, and keep repeating that until you have the most you can fit in the pan or you run out of naptha to pour in. lol
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#48 Posted : 2/11/2014 9:06:56 PM

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Yes...The more concentrated the solvent, the easier it will be for the goodies to crash out in the freeze.
But combining and evapping this way will waste precious solvent, when it can be reused indefinitely.
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#49 Posted : 2/18/2014 5:59:01 PM

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Well I've never been so disappointed in my life , I just don't no what I'm doing wrong !! All I get is a dish that smells like dmt with a tacky sticky bottom of my Pyrex dish !! If it wasn't funny I'd would shoot myself ! I am following Cybs hybrid salt TEK using 50g ACRB so this is what I do white vinegar 60 ml in 200 ml water , warm water baths for one hour , then 30 g salt in 100ml water dissolved , 50g caustic soda in 200 ml water , top up 140 ml of water warm water baths for two hours , 4 warm pulls with shellite it's nice and milky cover with cling film then place in freezer for 12 / 16 hours , freezer is new and super cold ! Take out nothing I can visually see but I take out then tip out shellite anyway and dry in front of cold portable air co. !! I'm gunna try this with 100g this last time using max-ion TEK otherwise I give up ! Is there any advice before I try this way ??
 
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#50 Posted : 2/18/2014 6:56:44 PM

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Earthwalker wrote:
Well I've never been so disappointed in my life , I just don't no what I'm doing wrong !! All I get is a dish that smells like dmt with a tacky sticky bottom of my Pyrex dish !! If it wasn't funny I'd would shoot myself ! I am following Cybs hybrid salt TEK using 50g ACRB so this is what I do white vinegar 60 ml in 200 ml water , warm water baths for one hour , then 30 g salt in 100ml water dissolved , 50g caustic soda in 200 ml water , top up 140 ml of water warm water baths for two hours , 4 warm pulls with shellite it's nice and milky cover with cling film then place in freezer for 12 / 16 hours , freezer is new and super cold ! Take out nothing I can visually see but I take out then tip out shellite anyway and dry in front of cold portable air co. !! I'm gunna try this with 100g this last time using max-ion TEK otherwise I give up ! Is there any advice before I try this way ??


If you are sure for executing the method as described and the supplementary products used then maybe the quality of the ACRB is not that good?
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#51 Posted : 2/18/2014 7:39:38 PM

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I just don't no what else to think at this stage !

I seem to be wasting time and product ( ain't expensive ) but my time is !!
 
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#52 Posted : 2/18/2014 11:26:54 PM

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As good as acrb is..Using it.. I cant find a visionary experiance strong enough for my taste...
Maybe a larger dose of acrb .. will work ..causing a more visionary experiance?

Acrb spice with its heavy ..[and sometimes nice]..body load..just has not been very visual for ma at 30mgs...

Because Mimosa is straight DMT... with its brutal come up.. is very visionary .. but too bad it imposible to get now a days in the USA!...

Has anyone else noticed.. [heavy body load]..but the lack of visions with ACRB?

One plan i have is to combine a pinch of ..[salvia 7x].. on top of my acrb I think that will make the visionary experiance kick in better!Smile
 
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#53 Posted : 3/13/2014 10:27:20 PM

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Hi
second time for me was a bit of failure. after three pulls i got the following product, almost 1.5gr



it seems that it is a mixture of the black liquid with spice, even if the pyrex i could see white crystals . After scrapping them the result is not that good. Can anybody point me what i did wrong and if i can clean the impurities out of this?
maybe trying recrystallizing the spice with fresh naptha. i hope it will help
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#54 Posted : 3/13/2014 10:45:45 PM

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It looks like my first time with MHRB and it was because i over heated during pulls.
I managed to sold it out by doing a mini A/B at room temp.

Hope it helps
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#55 Posted : 3/14/2014 12:01:31 AM

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boom123 wrote:
Hi
second time for me was a bit of failure. after three pulls i got the following product, almost 1.5gr



it seems that it is a mixture of the black liquid with spice, even if the pyrex i could see white crystals . After scrapping them the result is not that good. Can anybody point me what i did wrong and if i can clean the impurities out of this?
maybe trying recrystallizing the spice with fresh naptha. i hope it will help


It looks to me like you have sucked up traces of the soup whith you're solvent ,

which I'm sure you can re-x it just be carefully next time , and let it fully dry before you scrap as that's why you've got them tan

colored balls is you scrapped up the goo along with what crystals you had !! But they will blow you're sox off !! 😜
 
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#56 Posted : 3/14/2014 8:15:44 AM

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Earthwalker wrote:
boom123 wrote:
Hi
second time for me was a bit of failure. after three pulls i got the following product, almost 1.5gr



it seems that it is a mixture of the black liquid with spice, even if the pyrex i could see white crystals . After scrapping them the result is not that good. Can anybody point me what i did wrong and if i can clean the impurities out of this?
maybe trying recrystallizing the spice with fresh naptha. i hope it will help


It looks to me like you have sucked up traces of the soup whith you're solvent ,

which I'm sure you can re-x it just be carefully next time , and let it fully dry before you scrap as that's why you've got them tan

colored balls is you scrapped up the goo along with what crystals you had !! But they will blow you're sox off !! 😜


hey man. I think this is the case, traces of soup. I was very careful while pulling, i believe that my Naptha is not that good, because the colour that i was pulling was yellowish and not white and it didn't manage to completely separate from the soup...
Also, you are right that i didn't let it dry completely i guess but can you please explain if what would have changed if i did? I could see only white crystals in the pyrex and 2 big goo's of yellow..after scrapping it turned to that stuff you saw...
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boom123 wrote:

hey man. I think this is the case, traces of soup. I was very careful while pulling, i believe that my Naptha is not that good, because the colour that i was pulling was yellowish and not white and it didn't manage to completely separate from the soup...
Also, you are right that i didn't let it dry completely i guess but can you please explain if what would have changed if i did? I could see only white crystals in the pyrex and 2 big goo's of yellow..after scrapping it turned to that stuff you saw...

Naptha is going to turn yellowish if you leave it in your base soup too long. That doesnt mean bad naptha, just means you absorbed some plant oils. Theres no problem in that, but that shouldnt turn your product pink/brown. Do a re-x and all that pink should drop out to the bottom and youll be good. Smile
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Du57mi73 wrote:
boom123 wrote:

hey man. I think this is the case, traces of soup. I was very careful while pulling, i believe that my Naptha is not that good, because the colour that i was pulling was yellowish and not white and it didn't manage to completely separate from the soup...
Also, you are right that i didn't let it dry completely i guess but can you please explain if what would have changed if i did? I could see only white crystals in the pyrex and 2 big goo's of yellow..after scrapping it turned to that stuff you saw...

Naptha is going to turn yellowish if you leave it in your base soup too long. That doesnt mean bad naptha, just means you absorbed some plant oils. Theres no problem in that, but that shouldnt turn your product pink/brown. Do a re-x and all that pink should drop out to the bottom and youll be good. Smile


so this means that I took some of the soup while pulling without noticing? Can you tell me why I was seeing only white crystals and some yellow goo and this pink stuff appeared during scrubbing? where was the pink stuff hidden? thanks in advance.
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I've had the tan/pink goo after overheating the soup when pulling, the goo is still very active and goes down smoothly when proper vaping technique is applied. Crystals are prettier but the goo is delicious too. Of course one would want to err on the side of caution and re-x the product to make sure there's no presence of caustic substances before a bioassay.
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Jarppi wrote:
I've had the tan/pink goo after overheating the soup when pulling, the goo is still very active and goes down smoothly when proper vaping technique is applied. Crystals are prettier but the goo is delicious too. Of course one would want to err on the side of caution and re-x the product to make sure there's no presence of caustic substances before a bioassay.


in my first extraction i had a yellowish spice which indeed is delicious Smile but this time is not goo maybe in the picture is not showing very well but it is 'dirt' picked from the soup. i am about to re-x just now...
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