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deedle-doo
#1 Posted : 4/21/2009 3:40:33 PM

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I'm giving up smoking tobacco. I'm going to use this thread as a social lever on myself. I respect a lot of you quite a bit and maybe announcing my intentions and keeping a log here will help shore up my will-power to overcome what has become a really strong nicotine addiction.

I've tried 5 times in the last 12 months. This time I am using the nicotine gum. It's pretty good stuff. I can keep a piece in my mouth for ages and chew a few times when I need some nicotine.

Please share any stories about successfully quitting or failing. How did the successful folks here overcome weak moments?
 

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#2 Posted : 4/21/2009 3:42:40 PM

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Morning of day 2.

I smoked a butt. Gross. Only got about 2 puffs and not very tasty or satisfying. Feel like a junky. Today I will purge all my ash-treys to remove this source of temptation.
 
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#3 Posted : 4/21/2009 7:34:05 PM

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good luck with your mission!

I never smoked ciggs, but quit the hash+tobacco 'addiction' with a vaporizer for the pure hash.. But I wouldnt vaporize a cigarrete so I guess its not much help for you haha

Do you exercise? i heard of some people that succeeded quitting by starting some regular exercise also. It helps to anchor oneself to this aim of getting healthier, and feeling the changes happening as one gets fitter
 
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#4 Posted : 4/21/2009 8:29:10 PM

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Hey dude,

I'm not sure if any of this will help you, but I recently wrote my opinions on quitting smoking to a friend so might as well give it to you as well:

My theory on how to quit smoking is closely related to my hallucination about the structure about the time, which I have probably mentioned to you at some point.

Anyway, without going into that, here’s the basic premise; wrote this a while ago to quit myself.

For me, the urge to smoke is not the biggest stumbling block to quitting. If you have the urge to smoke I think that the best way to overcome it is through distraction techniques. Every time you want to smoke, do something else, yoga, meditation, writing, whatever it is that you never do but want to. This way, that 5 minutes can be spent towards the achievement of a goal more constructive and more rewarding than giving up something you actually quite enjoy.

Secondly, you shouldn’t harbour a desire to smoke, or a regret at quitting. If you feel this way then you might as well start smoking again. What you need to figure out is; do you actually want to quit? I wanted to quit – I didn’t care about the risk of cancer, I’ve never been particularly bothered by the cost, but I didn’t want my skin to dry out and become leathery, I didn’t want my teeth to yellow, and most of all, I didn’t want something to be in control of me.

You shouldn’t harbour regret about not smoking, or miss it, once you’ve made the decision to quit. This is a simple version of the “it’s happened, you can’t change it” principle, summed up in my favourite saying “there’s no point crying over spilt milk.” You’ve decided not to smoke again, so why worry about it. In the long run you’ll lose the desire to do it. [[[When I started smoking again after a long break I didn’t like it again, it had really lost its luster, you forget how much you have to force it on yourself at the start]]]

About the nature of time: When you first quit smoking, the time between the last cigarette and now is very small. At first 10 minutes, then 1 hour, then maybe one or two days. It can be tempting to think that because it’s so small there’s no point carrying on, it’ll never get any bigger. But if you break it down into fragments of time, you’ll be surprised how quickly it builds up; you get through one night, then a week, then two weeks. Eventually you haven’t smoked for a month and it actually becomes a shame if you break it and smoke, rather than an annoying thing. Eventually you stop counting the days since your last cigarette and don’t want one.

Also, as someone who’s meandered between being a smoker and non-smoker, I’ve noticed a psychological pressure to smoke when in the presence of other smokers. It’s as if, by not smoking, you’re letting them down when they offer you one. As if they’re looking at you with different eyes, classing you with “them”, the non-smokers. However, what you need to realize is that their ultimate emotion is jealousy; they’d rather have you with them smoking, not to respect you more, but so that you don’t escape the addiction that they can’t. If you stand with smokers while they smoke, and don’t smoke, when you go inside, you realize that actually they didn’t care, now that that moment has passed they no longer think about it, it makes no different to them now that you didn’t smoke. Yet you walk away from the encounter one cigarette less smoked. Think of it like this; imagine you were quitting at the age of 18 and you ignored that psychological pressure for 6 months; do you think anyone from those episodes cares now? No. And they didn’t care then. It’s all in the mind. At the end of the day we are all ultimately alone, it’s your body and your mind and you make your own choices. If you decide not to smoke there is no physical or mental reason that you should.

Hope any part of that helped,

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#5 Posted : 4/21/2009 8:36:38 PM

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well said Smile
 
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#6 Posted : 4/22/2009 7:59:53 PM

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good luck, im on your side. I actually told a friend of mine to smoke a DMT vape every time he wanted to smoke a cig. I figure you would get over it real fast.
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#7 Posted : 4/22/2009 8:06:22 PM

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hahahahah I bet
 
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#8 Posted : 4/22/2009 8:41:17 PM

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I've quit numerous times...it's really easy. I may quit again tonight for a bit...

But seriously, Best of luck. The psycological part of the addicition is the hard part. Keep yourself as busy as you can during times you normally have a cig. After meals and in the car were the hardest parts when I tried to quit. You may want to try using the patch and chewing regular gum or sucking on lolipops.

Just keep your mind on the goal and remember that every craving is you...getting BETTER. As wierd as that sounds it is true. Every day your cravings will become less powerful (although you may not know if for a month or so).

Again best of luck!
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#9 Posted : 4/23/2009 12:14:35 PM

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SUNFLOWER SEEDS AND TOOTHPICKS.

Art's Sunflower seed's is a good brand. They don't dry your mouth out, you can chew em all day long.
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#10 Posted : 4/23/2009 1:08:34 PM

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spice told me to my face - it hates cigarettes - or rather it hates me smoking them - or rather i hate me smoking them Smile
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#11 Posted : 5/4/2009 5:36:10 PM

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You could get some Tobacco seeds and grow your own organic, additive free tobacco which is less addictive and much healthier.
WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!

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#12 Posted : 5/4/2009 6:15:06 PM

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All natural tobacco is MUCH HEALTHIER FOR YOU.

SWIM quite smoking tobacco by smoking mint and passionflower in a bong as a substitute. The Passionflower completely masked the withdrawal of the tobacco making it very easy to quite. Plus the fact that SWIM was still smoking something also helped because part of tobacco addiction is the habit of smoking something.
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#13 Posted : 5/4/2009 8:41:03 PM

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You could also try "Rabbit's Tobacco".
WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!

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#14 Posted : 5/5/2009 12:19:01 AM

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lobelia is sopposedly good for quitting as well..
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#15 Posted : 5/5/2009 3:13:19 AM

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Man my latest quitting was a failure. I made it several days but then encountered a cactus and that got me right back into it. So I got a vine tellng me to give it up because it's lethal to me and those around me and a cactus telling me to keep at it because it feels so nice.

I'm goanna try the herbs you guys suggested. Maybe play with mixes. Then I can tork up huge spliffs at work Smile I've read a bit about growing tobacco and while it seems easy and quick to grow properly curing it is trickier and takes ages.
 
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#16 Posted : 5/5/2009 10:46:09 AM
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You haven't failed! So mescalito let you smoke tobacco, that doesn't mean you have to have one the next day. If you make a mistake, don't use it as an excuse to start smoking again.

Ron's suggestion of smoking an alternative sounds like a good stopgap for when you're desperate, but as it won't diminish your habit of smoking SOMETHING, another distraction technique would be better if you can. The gum will only help you if you reduce your dose over time.

Maybe stay away from mescalito, and others who like tobacco (md ma etc), for a month or so, until you've quit?
Even non-smoking SWIM always ended up chain smoking on md!

I agree to beware of other smokers... don't go outside the pub with them when they nip out for a cigarette. I don't even smoke but some people do enjoy persuading me to have one and 'share their guilt'. And I do feel guilty afterwards, guilty and gross. I gave up at 16- once it was legal I didn't see the point, it was the naughtiness that appealed because to me the experience was alright but unremarkable- there are far more interesting entheogens to explore. I also didn't want to be enslaved to a plant. SWIM found giving up weed MUCH harder, it took ages for the psychological longing to disappear... but now the very thought of being stoned turns him off.

Don't grow your own, just quit. You're an addict so if you really want to quit, you don't want the plant near you again. It would be like a junkie growing opium poppies... the temptation would always be there, available, right in your garden.

I'm not going to wish you luck, because you don't need it. You just need to be strong... embrace the challenge! Smile
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#17 Posted : 5/5/2009 3:22:06 PM

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Thanks man! Of course you are right about all of that. I am quitting again (for good) in two weeks. Why not now you might wonder. . . End of the week I am going on an 8 day desert camping trip. There will be cactus.
 
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#18 Posted : 5/6/2009 1:29:41 AM

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I smoked for 16 years. The last 5 I quit around 1.5 million times until it worked and I haven't smoked a cigarette for almost 3 years now.
I brainwashed myself. I thought about it every day how stupid and disgusting this habit was. I used to quit almost every day for a looooong time. I usually quit before I went to bed and then I was going to start a new life the next day.
But I usually started later that day or in the next 2-3 days. I always found a reason to postpone it.
But I always believed that I could quit for good. And everytime I did I truly believed that I would never smoke again. But then I usually did the next day Razz hahahaha
But I never gave up and I just quit again and again untill one day in a pub downtown London I just put my last cigarette out.
Now days I hardly ever want a cigarette but if the feeling comes I just tell myself I'm not going to smoke because it's going to be over in minutes. Usually I've forgotten about it ONE MINUTE LATER! And then maybe I don't think about cigarettes for months!
I'm just not smoking. period! It's disgusting, it smells like shit and makes me ill. And it costs money!

I smoke joints once in a while but I always blow the nicotine out of the tobacco. And I drink beer and do everything I used to do but I just don't smoke AND IT'S FUCKIN AWESOME! Very happy I'm sooo happy to be free from this shit Smile
When I finally quit for good I didn't use any nicotine products or nothing. I had tried them before but they didn't work for me.

But like ohayoco said you don't need any luck. Luck has nothing to do with it.
I just hope you do good.


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