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Du57mi73
#1 Posted : 2/15/2014 5:00:41 AM

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How do yall feel about gene manipulation? In cases with mutated genes that produce debilitating or fatal mutations can be fix with manipulation. Would you prefer to live in a society where it is legal to manipulate genes or in a world without? Also to what level do you think should be allowed? We eat GMOs all the time. It allows us to get the most out of our plants.. Why not in humans too?
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#2 Posted : 2/15/2014 7:23:04 AM

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But we've always manipulated ours and other oorganisms genes, or let's say genepools, via selective bbreeding. We do it more drastically during preimplantation embryo screening (but that latter prerequisits ivf too have happened). Even more drastic interference, i.e. to correct some gene that causes a disease is not in place at hand, but that's inevitable to happen.

Is it good? Is it bad? I guess the very same discussions regarding any other human invention apply, that summarises as: nothing comes without a cost.



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#3 Posted : 2/15/2014 6:18:26 PM

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I am much against the industrial use of GMOs for food production. GMOs are fine in scientific resarch and production in closed systems, where no organisms can escape into the ecosystems. But there are many things that are just plain wrong with GMOs in argriculture.

- GM croops are mainly beneficial to big agro, who make money by seeling their seeds to farmers every year, because they are not allowed so save their own seeds, and the matching chemicals
- GM crops are only profitable, because they are heavily subsidized
- It is established, that many of the chemicals have serious health hazards
- Possible dangers of GM plants are not known, because almost all studies are coming from the companies themselves, data is not published and independent Research is suppressed
- It is used as a weapon against farmers, who are often forced to change their production to GM croops, or go out of buisness (or are even sued by cooperations for "growing" their varieties, because the wind carried the pollen of the trademarked GMs to their fields)
- In Asia, Africa and Latin America, many Families who lived of their land for many generations can't compete with imported, subsidized GM crop prices, are driven into buying GM crap and herbicides and are often drowning in dept, because the harvest does not provide enough income. This results in suicides, selling of the land due to
- It threatens the diversity of traditional varieties, that are often much more productive and resistant, since they were selected to produce well in the region where they were selected. Also the knowledge of traditional small scale farming is easily lost.
- Herbicide resistance genes are useless in the long run, because "weeds" are also developing resistances
- GM crops need the same amount of water and fertilizers, so no benefits there
- GM crops do not solve the problems of industrialized agriculture: strong dependence on oil (imagine what happens if the stuff becomes significantly more expensive), need of fertilzers and other chemicals, pollution of soil and water, soil loss due to errosion, little nutrinional value of crops, loss of biodiversity...
And I'm sure I didn't list all concerns with that life threatening shit.

This is how you produce an abundance of healthy foods without fertilizers, chemicals, use of big machinery and at the same time restore divers ecosystems:


Here is a very good and informational documentary about the topic:
 
 
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