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primordium
#1 Posted : 2/8/2014 11:45:36 PM

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Each time I've tried to extract from ACRB, I see white lumps (rather than crystals). I always have a nagging feeling that it's just the salt or something. Does anyone else get lumps?
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#2 Posted : 2/9/2014 12:05:17 AM

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Alls I get is a pile of bright yellow naphtha ring around my glassware ,, sick to death of this non active confusa , it seems it's everywhere , bloody highway robbery !!
 
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Which tek are you using? How certain are you that what you have is actually ACRB? Have you dried these white lumps out?
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#4 Posted : 2/9/2014 1:25:56 AM

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Entheogenerator wrote:
Which tek are you using? How certain are you that what you have is actually ACRB? Have you dried these white lumps out?


I am using the Max Ion tek. I'm not certain at all that this is ACRB! And, I have not yet dried out the lumps. Previous (and failed) extraction attempts have taught me that these lumps disappear once I decant/evap the remaining naphtha (into clear "nothing" or scraped goo).
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#5 Posted : 2/9/2014 2:41:15 AM

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primordium wrote:
Entheogenerator wrote:
Which tek are you using? How certain are you that what you have is actually ACRB? Have you dried these white lumps out?


I am using the Max Ion tek. I'm not certain at all that this is ACRB! And, I have not yet dried out the lumps. Previous (and failed) extraction attempts have taught me that these lumps disappear once I decant/evap the remaining naphtha (into clear "nothing" or scraped goo).


Here is a couple photos of my acrb one with flash and one with a lamp..compare..
Your inner material looks a little light in color?
Shouldent it be more red?..or is it just your photo?
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#6 Posted : 2/9/2014 3:42:51 AM

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That's completely different looking to my bodgy looking crud !!


 
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#7 Posted : 2/9/2014 4:19:20 AM

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That's completely different looking to my bodgy looking crud !!




Well the outer white spots look close.. its just the inner part of bark looks a little lighter;;
Also my bark is in shorter peices...
Yours may be stems which should be good if its acacia...
 
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#8 Posted : 2/9/2014 4:29:45 AM

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You're bark is so much more fatter in diameter and mine is I think stem bark , but I don't think it's confusa I think it's a sub species as it only gave a small amount of unactive goo !!
 
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#9 Posted : 2/9/2014 8:45:56 AM

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Are you guys powdering that bark up before using it?
If not that would explain the poor yields.

No I'm putting it in whole root , dirt , cigi lighter and all !! Big grin

No I blitz mine up in coffee grinder till it's full on powder !! It still has a little bit of fibers here n there but it's pretty fine , almost dusty !!!
 
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#10 Posted : 2/9/2014 12:37:45 PM

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I get lumps ,but thats a bunch of chrystals clumped together.
When i have removed the naphta ,and used a fan for ca 20 minutes,the white lumps turn to white fluff when scraped from the pyrexdish.
I belive you should get a new supply of bark...

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#11 Posted : 2/9/2014 12:45:35 PM

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Now that's a good sight to see !!!

What bark , grams ? and TEK did you use traveling tommy ?Thumbs up
 
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#12 Posted : 2/9/2014 12:56:55 PM

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This was acrb,picture from 1 pull from a 75g exracktion. I used cyb`s max ion tek.
Went wery well,i did not measure everything,i pulled 8 times.the last two pulls only gave 40mg of golden goo (not Worth the job).But i got about 2% yeild in totallSmile I`ll be doing only 6 pulls from now,as the tek says.
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#13 Posted : 2/9/2014 1:02:05 PM

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Travling Tommy wrote:
This was acrb,picture from 1 pull from a 75g exracktion. I used cyb`s max ion tek.
Went wery well,i did not measure everything,i pulled 8 times.the last two pulls only gave 40mg of golden goo (not Worth the job).But i got about 2% yeild in totallSmile I`ll be doing only 6 pulls from now,as the tek says.



Yes I like cybs TEKs I was thinking of doing the ATB hybrid salt TEK but throwing a defat in there to get rid of the yellow goo ,, some ppl like it , but it gives me a bloody headache !!Wut?
 
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#14 Posted : 2/9/2014 1:23:30 PM

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Yes i tried that tek too (the ATB hybrid salt TEK) without the defat step. worked well too.
I have used the same bark all the time ,and have the impression that the max ion tek has a slightly better yeild,and purity. But its fun With diffrent tek`sThumbs up
I have four diffren colurs of goo from diffrent extractions: black,brown,red and golden...the goo seems to get pulled in the later pulls,i actuall never tried to smoke any of itConfused as i am not sure that it might be some base-stuff still left there? But i once got pinkish spice, i think it was red goo underneath the white fluff that goy scraped upp and mixwed together so it was a little sticky , that dmt had a spesial pleasure to itSmile
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#15 Posted : 2/9/2014 1:31:47 PM

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Travling Tommy wrote:
Yes i tried that tek too (the ATB hybrid salt TEK) without the defat step. worked well too.
I have used the same bark all the time ,and have the impression that the max ion tek has a slightly better yeild,and purity. But its fun With diffrent tek`sThumbs up
I have four diffren colurs of goo from diffrent extractions: black,brown,red and golden...the goo seems to get pulled in the later pulls,i actuall never tried to smoke any of itConfused as i am not sure that it might be some base-stuff still left there? But i once got pinkish spice, i think it was red goo underneath the white fluff that goy scraped upp and mixwed together so it was a little sticky , that dmt had a spesial pleasure to itSmile

Yes they certainly have a life of there own ,, I enjoy smoking it very much but haven't had a really deep visual Experiance yet I'm still under double digit so training wheels still on !! Thumbs up
 
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#16 Posted : 2/9/2014 1:40:48 PM

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My "preflight anxiety/fear" i got rid off not long ago, so training Wheels just off here..Smile
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#17 Posted : 2/9/2014 1:58:49 PM

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Travling Tommy wrote:
I get lumps ,but thats a bunch of chrystals clumped together.
When i have removed the naphta ,and used a fan for ca 20 minutes,the white lumps turn to white fluff when scraped from the pyrexdish.
I belive you should get a new supply of bark...

TT


How long do you do the freeze precipitation?
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#18 Posted : 2/9/2014 4:22:23 PM

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Travling Tommy wrote:
I get lumps ,but thats a bunch of chrystals clumped together.
When i have removed the naphta ,and used a fan for ca 20 minutes,the white lumps turn to white fluff when scraped from the pyrexdish.
I belive you should get a new supply of bark...

TT


Nice clean looking lumps..
Still..When ever the crystals melt the turn back to amber goo anyway..dont they..?
Thats why.. [with acacia].[unlike mimosa that is so easy to get crystals from..]
i sometimes dont bother with the extra work ..and just evaporate everything ..because it seems that goo and crystals are one of the same/? arent they?
cxrystals are wearing their dress cloths... goo is just naked..Big grin
 
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#19 Posted : 2/9/2014 5:05:52 PM

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I freeze 12-18 hours.
The lumps i get are not melting,i take out the naphta and use the fan wery quickly it does not have time to melt,but i dont think it would have melted anyway even if i wasnt in a hurry.
Heres a pickture after removing naphta and finished With the fan(below)...
I never had any chrystals melt here as i have seen. strangeConfused
Sometimes there is goo that lays like a very thin layer beneath the x-tals in my pyrex dishes.
so it can be difficult to colleck the x-tals without some sticky-icky..

I save the goo also but havent really tried it yet.
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Travling Tommy wrote:
I freeze 12-18 hours.
The lumps i get are not melting,i take out the naphta and use the fan wery quickly it does not have time to melt,but i dont think it would have melted anyway even if i wasnt in a hurry.
Heres a pickture after removing naphta and finished With the fan(below)...
I never had any chrystals melt here as i have seen. strangeConfused
Sometimes there is goo that lays like a very thin layer beneath the x-tals in my pyrex dishes.
so it can be difficult to colleck the x-tals without some sticky-icky..

I save the goo also but havent really tried it yet.



Now you got me interested...!
T.T..what kind of bark are you using with cybs teck?....acacia..or mimosa???????Wut?
I ask this because cybs teck is usualy for mimosa bark...
If its working that smoothly for ..[acacia].. ..thats great...
It looks super easy and without doing hours of acid boiling ...
I hate doing 5 hours of acid boiling the acacia bark ..! will cybs teck work for ....
acacia confusa bark???Wut?
thanks..
 
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