Hi guys,

Just want some advice and see if anyone else gets this.

Recently, with the last few batches of DMT I have made, ( I use u-pol system 20 instead of naphtha, it evaps cleanly and has worked extremely well before)

now, before I explain, I have been to hyperspace quite a few times, so I do believe my technique of smoking to be ok.

When I hit before on DMT, I get the lovely fractals, close eye visuals very nice bright and slowly twirking colours, very euphoric and when I open eyes it makes me almost cry with the beauty.

BUT now, Last few batches, when I hit it all seems so hectic and chaotic. no slowly smooth vision, its like the trip in infected somehow, very fast moving vision, layer uoon layer of mental vision.. not euphoric whatsoever.

I don't use dmt much, and I make very white pure crystals when I slow evap from after the initial extraction.

I tried a pipe, bong using layers of ash and infused enhanced leaf with parsley. but always the same now.

There is just no smoothness to the trip whatsoever, like I said it seems very hectic and unorganised.

I use MHRB and use the lye method, ALWAYS had worked before.

Why is my DMT doing this?

After first ectraction I do seem to get clean just off white powdery dmt after freeze precep, and after I evap this is warm u-pol, I get beautiful white crystal shards.

Does anyone have any ideas what is going on here?

Should I try a different method? but like I say, my crystals are super clear, so surley it musty be DMT pure.

Thanks guys for any help.

hello yamma1

do you weigh your doses?

your normal colourful sparkly experiences sound like low dose expeditions compared to the full on insanely fast experiences that can come with a higher dose.

I think your Magic is fine, it is just giving a wide range of experience because that's what the Magic does.

Hi mate,

Yes I do weigh out my DMT, Have experimented from 10mg to 70mg,

The lower dose just appears like the higher dose, just less hectic and chaotic.

Its really weird. But its been with the last few batches of MHRB.

The batch from a while ago made more of a yellowy clumpy extract after freeze precep and this stuff was amazing even before slow evap crystals.

these batches make a more whitey powdery substance, and this stuff seems to give me these fast hectic caotic trips.

im really confused about this

white DMT may contain more DMT per G than yellow as the yellow may have plant fats or other alks in it.

what's your smoking method?

I use a oil burner normally, this has never failed in the past,

I have tried using a dry bong using ashes and this also has been fine in the past.

Im very careful to only vapour my dmt and make sure I don't burn it. like I say, never been a problem in the past.

I know you probably wont agree but I think its the oil burner, crack pipes are about the worst way to vape the Magic.

there's plenty of threads about people claiming to be perfectly happy with conduction devices only to change there minds at a later date. There should be a massive, massive, massive difference between 10mg and 70mg, they shouldn't even feel like the same substance.

Anyway I hope all gets back to normal for you but im pretty sure there is no normal with DMT, I think what you are getting is pretty "normal".

ok ty 3rdi,

I appreciate your input, I wont give up,

Im going to try a acrb extraction soon and see if there is any difference.

I just want the euphoric trips I had before using exactly the same method. The only thing I have changed is the MHRB.

but I take on board. I am getting nice white crystals, so must be DMT I suppose.

Thanks again

DMT is DMT is DMT. This sounds like either a dosage problem (which can be influenced by smoking method when the DMT is improperly vaporized), or a psychological problem. Perhaps your newly developed expectations for the experience to be hectic and chaotic are influencing the experience. Try to really convince yourself that DMT is DMT, that there is no difference between this batch and your previous batch, and you may see different results.

If all else fails, try changa.

yes mate,

Thank you.

Yeah,it must be dmt. it smells like it, it looks like it, tastes like it.

Good to know my product is likely to be fine and its me, either psychological or technique. will convince myself that it is fine and keep trying.

I am going to make changa with my next extraction. give that a go, I tried enhanced leaf but want to go with changa

thanks again

For me, the big difference is all in the environmental setting - internal and external.

The first few times, I was on holidays without a care in the world, with the girl of my dreams in the beautiful Alps mountainside. Of course, my trips reflected that picturesque setting: feeling (and seeing) the one-ness of everything, awe-inspiring visuals, a feeling of "everything is OK" and a comfortable sense of joy and satisfaction in the afterglow.

After returning home - in a different setting and different mind-space - I experienced completely different trips... It's cold so I had to be inside, ungrounded, in the evening, with different people, in a place where my personal history isn't the most inspiring.

These trips became more comparable to the introspection of a mushroom trip: subdued challenges/fears arose, letting go of myself/control was more difficult... Totally different visuals and sensations and while even though the first time was the most intense experience (I believe break-through) it was easier to handle than some of the latter journeys.

Same spice.

Everything changes. I'd say if you're using a good processes that ensures you're Q.C.'s are up to snuff then I'd say it's not the spice's "fault"

Let go of the attachment to the calm, and soothing journey (which does sound like a lower dosage) and let the rapid-fire worm hole take you where it needs to!

BIG MASSIVE thanks to all.

Its all sorted, I made some enhanced leaf using 500 mg DMT and 500 mg parsley,

I used the shot glass in boiling water as mentioned in the changa section.

I then used my bong and a good few hits sent me EXACTLY where I wanted to go

Thanks again all. this site is the best.

Peace