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#1 Posted : 1/16/2014 2:02:42 PM

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I often see these symbols in hyperspace. Does anyone else see them or have a theory as to what they might mean?
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#2 Posted : 1/16/2014 2:17:21 PM

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I see indecipherable runes as such, but what they mean, I don't know. I can tell you about a certain context in which I've observed them, and perhaps this can be of some help. For me, the difference between open eyed visions and closed eyed visions is simply a matter of color saturation, but they are essentially the same thing (other than the splitting of my attention between hyperspace and consensual reality which may have effects on the vision as well). Whether it be with eyes closed, or eyes open, I often get (as many others do) multidimensional holograms. With eyes open these holograms tend to appear as more translucent as opposed to more solid and colorful with eyes closed. There have been times when with eyes open, these translucent holograms get right close up to me such that I can see that where the vectors meet at the vertices, instead of a "point" or a simple change in direction of vectors, there are these tiny glyphs as you've depicted above. My best guess therefore would be that these runes could possibly be a kind of information system (similar to DNA in biological life forms) that inform the geometries how they can come together and present themselves (akin to phenotypes) essentially carrying energetic-geometric information. Just a guess Smile
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#3 Posted : 1/16/2014 2:39:26 PM

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I've seen cryptic writings and alien languages on many entheogens--writings in many different styles. Allyson paints this 90 degree language--I've seen that one too--but so many others as well.

theories as to what they might be? trickster gods gave humanity written language in many mythologies. Entheogens generally tend towards being mercurial. Thoth and Odin were both mushrooms and the psychedelic experience prompted the development of symbolic thinking and the written word. Purely speculative and not terribly original--but you asked.


(well thoth may have been a middle eastern ayahuasca analogue and odin may be more associated with the amanita, )
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#4 Posted : 1/16/2014 7:42:26 PM
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This is very interesting that you pointed this out. I have also seen many different writings and symbols within my practice. Would really like to know what you find.

I know a lot of what they do is trying to get you to Understand that "You ARE God"

maybe some sort of translation
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#5 Posted : 1/16/2014 9:23:18 PM

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The symbols look a lot like those of the Emerald Tablets of Thoth the Atlantean
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#6 Posted : 1/16/2014 10:01:20 PM

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I have definitely seen those. Once, a phrase of those symbols popped up in hyperspace and I wrote them down and had a cryptographer friend of mine decipher a message. It said:

"U R HI"

Still trying to figure out the significance...

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#7 Posted : 1/17/2014 2:31:34 AM

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The first time I saw for my own third eye (lulz) the spaces that Alex represents in his art I literally shot my eyes open for a split second and said to my self...Welll crap, thats outstanding." And closed my eyes and went back in haha. It was quite incredible.

I personally cant recall seeing any of Alysons representations though. I cant really say Ive seen much text. Ive seen a lot of grids, geometry, mandala, fractal imagery, very indescribable plants, one I call the double ended broccoli stalk palm tree hahah, and I almost always see a humming bird which is made up of lines; there is little to no definition aside from the shape of it totally made up of horizontal traveling lines.
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#8 Posted : 1/17/2014 3:26:22 AM

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The text I see is somewhat aztec/mayan mixed with alysons work. They seem to be singular, what i mean by that is a 'letter' surround by a box. sort of like the baby ABC playing blocks. and they are horizontal and vertical from one another.

I have also seen this 'All seeing snake" that i found here on the nexus in the art section. every few seconds it would freeze and the eyes would open, then close and it was meander a bit in the this strange space.

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#9 Posted : 1/17/2014 4:11:23 AM

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Well it's really good to know that it's not just me seeing this. More evidence of a hyper dimensional intelligence.
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#10 Posted : 2/4/2014 7:22:27 AM

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Global wrote:
There have been times when with eyes open, these translucent holograms get right close up to me such that I can see that where the vectors meet at the vertices, instead of a "point" or a simple change in direction of vectors, there are these tiny glyphs as you've depicted above. My best guess therefore would be that these runes could possibly be a kind of information system (similar to DNA in biological life forms) that inform the geometries how they can come together and present themselves (akin to phenotypes) essentially carrying energetic-geometric information. Just a guess Smile


Thank you for describing this detail so eloquently, I see the same latticework with runic intersections but have not been able to put it in words, beyond "Everything was made of math" or as a rendering. It would be fantastic if it were possible to decipher the language the characters belong to, the fact that others see basically the same character set (I thought they looked like alien roman numerals) shows some possible objective-reality programming language or operating system at work.

This thread is exciting I hope others have xenolinguistic experiences to share. It made me wonder if I were a mathematician if I could gain some deep insight out of the waving hyperdimensional lattices that could help mankind, or at least expand physics. Giving mathematicians and physicists breakthrough experiences to spawn innovation and discovery could be potentially worldchanging. Cryptoanalysts and linguists insights would also be useful in decoding the language. Without a Rosetta stone we would probably have to wait to be taught the language though.

Theres another language I get in dreams and astral experiences with looks very much like Ithkuil, the synthetic language which is an amalgam of every language's best traits designed as a universal language. Two of these were futuristic, hopefully parallel timelines. One post ice-age (post-apocalyptic?) the other extraplanetary with multiple language advertisements everywhere. Only reason I bring the Ithkuil characters up is that Krystal Cole's bedroom displayed in the VICE magazine "High on Krystal" has a painting of very similar characters, which she sees while tripping. Wanted to throw that out there if anyone sees Klingon looking characters in dreams or hyperspace.


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#11 Posted : 2/4/2014 7:33:04 AM

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I have definitely seen those. Once, a phrase of those symbols popped up in hyperspace and I wrote them down and had a cryptographer friend of mine decipher a message. It said:

"U R HI"

Still trying to figure out the significance...

JBArk

Oh gods... I think I just broke a rib laughing. Seriously. It hurts.

Along those lines, I've often spent loads of time wondering at the undecipherable symbols and messages... and then I realize that I was just in a very impressionable state of mind while hallucinating, so I'm pretty likely to attribute unrealistic significance to visions. They're just visions, just noise and trappings. They're undecipherable for a reason: ...There's no meaning to glean. It just is what it is.

When we get the messages we really need to figure out, we feel the meaning and see the truth. Even if it impossible to accept. No need to go wondering about some lady's paintings and how they might relate to your experience. She's just a person like you, nothing more than human. (okay, well might have more ego than most folks put together Twisted Evil )
 
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#12 Posted : 2/4/2014 8:37:16 AM

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jbark wrote:
I have definitely seen those. Once, a phrase of those symbols popped up in hyperspace and I wrote them down and had a cryptographer friend of mine decipher a message. It said:

"U R HI"

Still trying to figure out the significance...

JBArk


I hope you are joking about tryin to figure that out lol... " you are high"... Lol
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#13 Posted : 2/4/2014 8:41:56 AM

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Spiritofspice wrote:
Binary Drool wrote:
The text I see is somewhat aztec/mayan mixed with alysons work. They seem to be singular, what i mean by that is a 'letter' surround by a box. sort of like the baby ABC playing blocks. and they are horizontal and vertical from one another.

I have also seen this 'All seeing snake" that i found here on the nexus in the art section. every few seconds it would freeze and the eyes would open, then close and it was meander a bit in the this strange space.



Yes I see this as well.
Instead of eyes it's covered in letters and symbols.
The letters and symbols often flash bright neon colours.
The detail of the inter winding colours is indescribable.


During my last full immersion changa breakthrough I saw the playing blocks as well, I was led by blue feminine wireframed-energy entities to a pedestal on which a large, perhaps 1 cubic foot playing block revolved with a greek Phi-looking character at its center. They urgently wanted me to watch it revolve, to teach me something perhaps or reprogram me I thought. I kept trying to look out a doorway into a chaotic swirling fractal-vortex which generated a frightening "i'm going crazy" thought loop. Each time I did this they frantically pulled my attention back to the pedestal. After the third time I left the bedroom and sat in the hallway and waited for it to wear off.

Thats literally awesome others get playing blocks and Indra's Net geometrical glyph webwork and a similar character set as I do. I think we are touching at the heart of the matter. Recently I've gotten really into Simulationist metaphysical theory (I built my own unified theory - and found Tom Campbell had already done it almost identically (!?) first, and better. Check out "My Big TOE" for a NASA physicist, Monroe Institute pioneers take on Matrixism). Experiences like these provide some support for the Matrix/Brain-in-a-Vat/Plato's holographic cavewall arguments. My belief is that our sober reality is made of this same informational latticework but we cannot see it and the entities are the architects and our caretakers. Its hard to explain the universal aspect of these details otherwise, unless we travel to a digital universe from this material one, which seems less likely.


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#14 Posted : 2/4/2014 9:01:39 AM

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Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:
jbark wrote:
I have definitely seen those. Once, a phrase of those symbols popped up in hyperspace and I wrote them down and had a cryptographer friend of mine decipher a message. It said:

"U R HI"

Still trying to figure out the significance...

JBArk

Oh gods... I think I just broke a rib laughing. Seriously. It hurts.

Along those lines, I've often spent loads of time wondering at the undecipherable symbols and messages... and then I realize that I was just in a very impressionable state of mind while hallucinating, so I'm pretty likely to attribute unrealistic significance to visions. They're just visions, just noise and trappings. They're undecipherable for a reason: ...There's no meaning to glean. It just is what it is.

When we get the messages we really need to figure out, we feel the meaning and see the truth. Even if it impossible to accept. No need to go wondering about some lady's paintings and how they might relate to your experience. She's just a person like you, nothing more than human. (okay, well might have more ego than most folks put together Twisted Evil )



You may be a reductionist and a skeptic, but that is also a belief system and not necesarily right. Visions can have meaning and often do. This forum of all places should be open to wild speculation and if suprising correspondances appear, it is irrational to not document them and see if a pattern emerges. Visions supposedly led to the ayahuasca vine/psychotria leaf recipe, and many people get accurate diagnoses of medical conditions with visions. Theres evidence either way if you take the external source or internal generation argument.

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I have seen something similar but only when i am coming back and i have my eyes open. If i look at the TV it appears sometimes that I am watching an alien news channel with this writing scrolling across the bottom like a news feed. I have no idea what it means (I hope they get little Jimmy out of the well though).

As to it being proof of something Alien... I think we are all basically wired the same so whatever the molecule does to us the themes will be similar.

I also believe that our cultural environment guides what we see. This has been mentioned before in that western people see a lot of machine imagery. While peoples from different cultures see different imagery.

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You may be a reductionist and a skeptic, but that is also a belief system and not necesarily right. Visions can have meaning and often do. This forum of all places should be open to wild speculation and if suprising correspondances appear, it is irrational to not document them and see if a pattern emerges. Visions supposedly led to the ayahuasca vine/psychotria leaf recipe, and many people get accurate diagnoses of medical conditions with visions. Theres evidence either way if you take the external source or internal generation argument.

And you may be assuming too much.

I love it when people do this... if somebody tries to temper the fantastical, they're a reductionist skeptic. If they indulge fantasy, they're called out on opposite grounds. I've been accused of both by both sides, and better people besides. Call me what you like, I don't mind... But don't you put words in my mouth.

Read the whole post, and you'll see what I think about visions. It's a matter of sincerity, not semantics... so there's no need to pick apart mine.
 
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I love it when people do this... if somebody tries to temper the fantastical, they're a reductionist skeptic. If they indulge fantasy, they're called out on opposite grounds. I've been accused of both by both sides, and better people besides. Call me what you like, I don't mind... But don't you put words in my mouth.

Read the whole post, and you'll see what I think about visions. It's a matter of sincerity, not semantics... so there's no need to pick apart mine.


I read the whole post. I believe you are assuming too much as well, none of us can state with authority there is no information to glean, it's just noise and trappings etc. The tone you used was patronising towards the purpose of this thread, the line afterwards "When we get the messages we really need to figure out, we feel the meaning and see the truth" you contradict yourself, I suppose to temper the tone and keep replies like this from happening. So which is it, nonsense or extra-dimensional personal communication? If you aren't sure I wouldn't make blanket statements like that.

From your "better people besides" jab, you are again making assumptions. I don't have the time or interest to ego-wrangle with you, but I apologize from calling you a reductionist. Thats me assuming you apply this attitude to other parts of life. I have no problem with you personally, I only want speculation on this topic to continue without people being made to feel foolish and fantastical for trying to find patterns in this mystery. And I do respect your posts and insight, I just do not accept your authority.

I was too quick to take offense though. I get tired of people being dismissive of metaphysical or extraterrestrial speculation, its a field of research like any other. When dream recording technology improves (it exists now with poor resolutiom and accuracy) there will be more hard data on psychedelic imagery, less anecdotal interpretation. I guess only then will it be possible to show if this stuff is shared and objective or not.

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#18 Posted : 2/5/2014 12:08:36 AM

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jbark wrote:
I have definitely seen those. Once, a phrase of those symbols popped up in hyperspace and I wrote them down and had a cryptographer friend of mine decipher a message. It said:

"U R HI"

Still trying to figure out the significance...

JBArk


I hope you are joking about tryin to figure that out lol... " you are high"... Lol


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Ive had the reoccuring thoughts that these symbols and glyphs are a language that is being programmed into our subconcious and dna via the conduit that is the plant and the molecules that catalyse these visions.
Maybe in order for a more advanced language to be used by future generations.

* I fully admit I have absolutely no evidence to suggest this is true its just an idea.
 
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Mimosa_Man wrote:
jbark wrote:
I have definitely seen those. Once, a phrase of those symbols popped up in hyperspace and I wrote them down and had a cryptographer friend of mine decipher a message. It said:

"U R HI"

Still trying to figure out the significance...

JBArk


I hope you are joking about tryin to figure that out lol... " you are high"... Lol


jbark never jokes. He actually has no sense of humour whatsoever Big grin



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