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Well not really. Iowasca isn't actually a thing. Yet. But it could be. Right now, Iowasca is just a misspelling of Ayahuasca. But I think that Iowasca would be a cool name for an anahuasca brew made from plants that grow wild in the American midewest - being a play on the name of the midwestern state of Iowa. The MAOI would be Elaeagnus angustifolia - Russian Olive. This is the only viable wild source of harmalas growing in the midwest that I know of. The source of DMT could be Desmanthus illinoensis - Illinois Bundleflower. This plant grows in most US states, but is most common in the midwest. I guess that Desmanthus leptolobus could be used instead, but it isn't as common and it isn't found in Iowa. Phalaris species could also be used, but they aren't as characteristic of the midwest. I hope to one day try this sort of combination. I have some Desmanthus illinoensis that I collected a while ago, but I haven't found a good source of russian olive yet. Has anyone ever tried this Iowasca combination? Maay-yo-naze!
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Homo discens
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Interesting, I wasn't aware that Russian Olive contained harmala alkaloids. What is the alkaloid content in comparison to that of B. caapi or P. harmala? What other alkaloids does it produce? EDIT: I can't find a whole lot of information on Elaeagnus angustifolia, but it seems that it contains about .05% tetrahydroharmine. I have yet to find anything to suggest that it contains harmine or harmaline, and I am not sure of the dosage required for THH to inhibit MAO enzymes. If it is somewhere in the range of 100-200mg then about 200-300g bark would be required, so a crude ethanol or methanol extraction beforehand might be the best option for using this plant in an anahuasca brew. EDIT 2: I misread the source. It said tetrahydroharmol, not tetrahydroharmine. I am not aware of the dosage for this compound, nor it's efficacy for inhibiting MAO-A.
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Quote:Chemical Content
Fruits contain carbohydrates, organic acids, tannins, grease, the nitrous, slimy and pigments. The cortex contains alkaloids eleagnine (0,1 %) and tetrahydroharmol (0,05 %), tannins and pigments. In leaves there is ascorbic acid; in flowers - an aromatic essential oil (0,3 %).
Traditional Use and Activity
Fruits possess astringent, antiinflammatory, anaesthetising properties with soothing and sputum ejection action. Oleaster roots or fruits decoction is taken for wind-pipes diseases, for a colitis (in a combination with the same fruit jam). Flowers infusion are used in treatment of catarrhal diseases, and also as a cardiac performance enhansing agent. The ground fresh leaves of the plant are applied on purulent wounds for purification and fast healing. Fruits is a nutriment. http://www.naturalcompou...eagnus-angustifolia.htmlTetrahydroharmol is a beta-carboline harmala alkaloid. at .05% though... i dunno if its worth it to extract or make a brew with. "I am cursed by the blossoming knowledge of my feminine ideal and she looks suspiciously like you."
"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." -AE
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I have smoked russian olive bark and found it comparable to smoking caapi vine shavings. I know of at least one other person who is drinking brews from this tree, and another person who makes 10x leaf extracts. Long live the unwoke.
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Entheogenerator wrote:Interesting, I wasn't aware that Russian Olive contained harmala alkaloids. What is the alkaloid content in comparison to that of B. caapi or P. harmala? What other alkaloids does it produce?
EDIT: I can't find a whole lot of information on Elaeagnus angustifolia, but it seems that it contains about .05% tetrahydroharmine. I have yet to find anything to suggest that it contains harmine or harmaline, and I am not sure of the dosage required for THH to inhibit MAO enzymes. If it is somewhere in the range of 100-200mg then about 200-300g bark would be required, so a crude ethanol or methanol extraction beforehand might be the best option for using this plant in an anahuasca brew. BTW.."THH" does not necessarily mean tetrahydroharmine..it can mean tetrahydroharman..which in this case I am pretty sure is what they mean. There is a number of harmala alkaloids present in these trees..there has been a number of threads about this in the past. Long live the unwoke.
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Dreamoar
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From this thread: russian olive status? Dorge wrote:Chemicals in: Elaeagnus angustifolia L. (Elaeagnaceae) -- Russian Olive, Silver Berry
Chemicals
2-METHYL-1,2,3,4-TETRAHYDRO-BETA-CARBOLINE Bark: HHB
ALKALOIDS Bark 2,000 ppm; HHB
CALLIGONINE Bark: HHB JBH
DIHYDROHARMAN Bark: HHB
ELAEAGNINE Plant: JSG
HARMAN Shoot: HHB
N(-METHYL-TETRAHYDROHARMOL Bark: HHB
N-METHYL-TETRAHYDROHARMOL Plant: JSG
TETRAHYDROHARMAN Bark: HHB
TETRAHYDROHARMOL Bark: HHB
It does contain harmala alkaloids but not harmine and harmaline. Effects of smoked leaf extracts are very similar to the effects of smoked caapi leaf extracts. We do not yet know if it is sufficient to activate oral DMT.
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Homo discens
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jamie wrote:BTW.."THH" does not necessarily mean tetrahydroharmine..it can mean tetrahydroharman..which in this case I am pretty sure is what they mean. There is a number of harmala alkaloids present in these trees..there has been a number of threads about this in the past. I am aware of this, but I misread the source. It said tetrahydroharmol, I read it as tetrahydroharmine and abbreviated to THH. My mistake.
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