There seems to be a lot of confusion about this abundant plant. Most importantly, it's hard to find any recent experimentation/results with it. So, in an effort to inform and collaboratively crack the mystery, I've decided to start a thread on my extraction findings as they happen. I plan on running several different extraction methods to see which produces the highest yield.

Disclaimer: I've been blessed to experience conscious enlightenment through DMT in the past but I have no desire to use it in the future. This experiment is for scientific discovery only. I don't encourage or desire this information to be used for any illegal activity. Any misuse of this information is your sole responsibility.

Day 1:

I've found that harvesting in the early morning produces a higher yield. The younger the plant, the better the yield. Early this morning (Pic 1)

Within 15-30 minutes of harvest, cut the grass (leaves/stems) into a manageable size, and place into the freezer for about two hours. (Pic 2)

Pull the frozen matter out of the freezer and cut into even smaller source material and place back into the freezer for another 2 hours. (Pic 3)

Again, remove the material from the freezer and blend it into a fine mulch. (Pic 4) (.6 Kilograms or 1.3 lbs of working material). I've found that a blender works best for this. I've used a juicer but the results with material and yield seem to be less. Blend down as good as you can, leaving larger chunks is fine as the base solution will break it down even further. Place back into the freezer overnight.

This first step is rather messy and takes about 2 hours cumulatively to harvest, cut and blend.

Till tomorrow

Is this Phalaris arundinacea or P. aquatica you are dealing with here? I say good luck and godspeed on your quest! I'll be really interested to see what your experiments yield.

Arundinacea... got a freezer full, we shall see... we shall see

can't wait to see. what tek are you using for this?

Nice work! we all need more information about Phalaris,please keep us updated..

There's any food grade tek to this?

good luck!

Good luck!

Have a go at pouring vinegar on the grass then microwaving till it goes all limp and freezing. Destroys the grass

please see both of these threads before you assume what your extracting is DMT.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=41419
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=48635

Hey did this experiment make it any further? there's phalaris everywhere he in canada, and no mimosa to be seen, so any news is good news!

i find myself wondering if he ingested his extractions and died... this thread seems to have died as a result. i hope youre doing well lightson. any further updates would be much appreciated.

I think the case here is that he didn't yield anything. I would hope. We need to find a way to
pull only DMT and 5-meo. we just need to find out what was done in the old days.

I did this with same plant and with the same weight...now I think what to do?!

I smoked it in this winter time,and nothing, maybe I did something wrong

^that looks like sodium carbonate or something with a lot of contam..plus if that was DMT it would be quite the pile for one dose by the looks of it.

What exactly did you do to yield that stuff? It really doesnt look like purified alkaloids at all to me.

i am new in this things, I had used potassium chloride,with out ph Metter and plane fuel.real mess. I smoked it and I got rapid hart beat that's all. And now I don't now what to do with my seeds of this PLANT? sorry for my bad English

@zubeyr2 - Please be careful with yourself. When people die it causes problems for everyone else. Please read and use a known TEK until you have enough knowledge to try new ideas. Potassium Chloride? What did you use that for? Be very careful of smoking just any old stuff.

As stated previously, if you don't know what you are doing please don't do it. If you aren't confident in yourself with the scientific logic to support your experimentation, please don't do it. Stick to a tried and true method or a well researched one at least. Sometimes it is good to follow the leader.

Funny how a thread dies so the person must be dead?

None of those pictures are any species of Phalaris.

So hopefully this guy didn't ingest it.

This is what it should look like :

It seems that my previous response to this post was deleted by one of the moderators (then momentarily undeleted by myself, simply because I could not recall what it said). I apologize if my post seemed harsh, but it really concerns me when I read posts in which people portray the intention to ingest an unknown amount of a plant extract with an unknown alkaloid content.

I apologize if the way in which I worded my post seemed aggressive or judgmental, as that was not my intention, but I stand by my suggestion that people do enough research to develop a solid understanding of the extractions that they want to perform. Ingesting "eyeballed" doses of questionable plant extracts is downright dangerous. I feel obligated to emphasize that point when I see a post like this.