It's hard for me to inhale and same time see if vapor is forming, can i just heat holdin bottle near my mouth and start to inhale then?

Also what do you mean by " Your spice is still probably in mesh " ?
If so, why didn't it start to produce any smoke? I took it out and applied heat to mesh from 0.5inch or so and it gave me some slight smoke..i wonder why it do that when it was inside of bottleneck.

I'm afraid that i'm doing too little or it doesn't vape everything because mesh i got isn't good enough or something.

Also it didn't seem to melt from top when i just heated the bottleneck, had to be side to side with mesh about inch or less until i saw it dissapear. Did this holding bottle horizontally.

About amount..it was pile size of matchead, i have a scale that weighs from 0.01 - 200g. But it's crappy one: How i tried to weigh it: I took little piece of paper, weighed it multiple times, it weighed 0.15 and next time 0.14 and one time 0.13, so i put paper on scale, then scraped some dmt on it, lifted it and repeated to add dmt until after lifting and putting on, it went from 0.14-0.15/16.
So about 10mg-20mg i think. Should i just say fuck it and load up like 30-40mg approx?
I'm really excited for it and would like a experience allready..i only got very small amount of DMT(200mg or so) and don't want to waste it all without an good experience.

When i tried to vape 2 last times, it filled with smoke VERY fast, i then inhaled deeply and held as long as i could, should you still keep it going when holdin the hit? Or start lighter again after i have exhaled first hit?

I'm confused as to why you are unable to see vapor forming while holding the bottle to your mouth. Hold it up to your mouth and look at the tip of your nose. You will be able to see the bottle changing from clear to white when vapor starts to form.

Any stainless steel or copper mesh will work fine, that is probably not the problem.

.15g is 150mg. Don't try to smoke .15g

Melt the spice while the bottle is standing upright. Point the flame at the neck of the bottle from the side. Move the flame from side to side so it isn't constantly touching the glass, applying heat in 5 second increments or so. If any smoke comes off of it while you are melting the spice, you are using too much heat.

As previously explained, a pile the size of a matchhead could be 5mg or it could be 25. There is no way to accurately measure a dose by looking at it.

Don't just load twice as much. You will most likely either end up wasting twice as much every time you try, or once you get it right you will end up dosing an excessive amount. I definitely don't recommend this for the first time.

Take in as much vapor as you can on the first hit, hold it as long as you can, and repeat until you are no longer producing vapor. It is best to get the whole dose in one hit, but it is not imperative.

If you're not getting vapor fast enough, move the lighter closer slowly until you are.

Entheogenerator, I think he said the paper he weighed it on weighed .13g so including the papers weight .15g total would only be 20mg.

Anxietic, I wish I could be there to light it up for you, that may be your onl problem. Do you have anybody who uses dmt who could maybe help you out in person?


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Actually i got my GF to light it for me, but we still had to figure out the distance and position it started to vaporize effectively at.

How long should i spend inhaling one toke? And how long to hold it down before taking another hit? Also i read people taking it all with one big toke and having good results.
I want to try today, so anyone who can help me with how to inhale(how many seconds wasted on inhaling each toke), please reply or send me pm.

I think i want to try bigger dosage this time, i got some kind of idea about how intense it is with those 3 tries, and really..nothing can prepare me for breakthrough, can it? And i read that those sub-breaktrough dosages really aren't that special, most likely leave you just wanting more.
It's sad i can't weigh it out with milligram precision, it will be probably +-10mg.

Is there ANY way to know if i should take another toke or put the pipe down? If i don't aim for breaktrough dosage, but have loaded so much that if taken another toke, i would break?

I feel like you are making this harder for yourself than it needs to be. There's no need to keep track of how many seconds you spend inhaling. Just move the lighter closer if you're not getting it all in one go. The vapor inside should be thick enough to basically make the bottle look like its filled with milk. Hold it for 15 seconds or so, and take another hit to make sure you got it all.

You're absolutely right, nothing can prepare you for the breakthrough. But sub-breakthrough doses are definitely valuable too, don't be too quick to dismiss them.

If you see something coming out upon exhale, you didnt hold it long enough.

Thats why the whole "all in one hit" thing. It sounds to me like your not letting it get thick enough, maybe more heat.

I'm glad we are helping, but it seems to me somewhat ridiculous that we have over three pages of correspondence on your lack of vaping skills. Just keep experimenting until you feel you've done it right.

If you run out of dmt just extract some more it's as easy as baking a pie when you read the Teks thoroughly and understand the basic principles of the extraction process.

Trust me, i don't feel that bright either because of all stupid questions..but okay, bye and good luck to me, thanks for all tips and help so far, apperciate it.

If you see something coming out upon exhale, you didnt hold it long enough.

Thats why the whole "all in one hit" thing. It sounds to me like your not letting it get thick enough, maybe more heat.

Another question I have is why shouldn't u heat from under the neck when its horizontal? Seems as it would be less likely to burn the spice and still heat it enough to vaporize it.