One of the most incredible experiences that I had involved me opening my eyes and being wrapped in the most incredible cacoon of musical notation. I had entered with a close friend playing acoustic behind me. I was on the floor, lying down. I could CLEARLY see the musical notes flying through the air, wrapping around me, protecting me. It was a borderline religious experience.

With that being said... Youtube is full of idiots. lol. Keep flagging those vids!

I dont know... didnt seem right...

I think that's where you're getting hung up: on the idea that there is some objective, moral "rightness" to DMT use.

DMT is a drug, just like any other it agonizes or antagonizes certain neurotransmitter receptors in your CNS to alter your mood, thought process and perception of reality.
That's all. It's up to you what you do with it.

Psychedelics are one of those things that will give you back what you put in. If you smoke DMT badly at festivals just to "trip ballz," well, that's probably all you'll get, and that's fine. It's not like there's some cosmic bean counter out there checking you off some great DMT Naughty/Night list.

Conversely, if you treat DMT as an etheogen, cloak it in ritual and have the right intentions, it can be a beautiful, powerful, spiritual thing. And that's also fine.

Anecdote time: I love psilocybin mushrooms. I have known it to be just as healing and powerful as Ayahuasca or smoked DMT, and I make a point to, at least twice a year, go out in the woods with a few close friends and trip.

I've got 6 hours of trip: some of it is spent praying and meditating, some of it is often spent making out with my girlfriend, and some of it I spend running around the woods pretending I'm a wizard or something.

I get different things from each experience, the praying is often powerfully spiritual and healing, but the other two are just FUN, and I say that in the most derogatory sense of the word. Still though, I am not ashamed of having fun. Sometimes the most healing thing you can imagine is just letting go, having a good time, and laughing a lot with close friends.

We have a pervasive idea in America that hedonism is somehow sinful and that unless you are being somehow productive, you're committing some crime.

I don't know about you, but I love having random fun, and I'm a happier person for it.

Blessings (have fun this weekend )
~ND

If you're talking about not seeming right with the music, I'm going to side with MomentofTruth. I've had multiple experiences where I either could clearly see the music in the air, or had myself become the music where I had no body, and I identified myself clearly with and as the music. It's understandable that you can't relate if it hasn't happened to you.

I've ventured into hyperspace a bit more since I created this post. I've learned to understand the possibilities of randomness as well as the possibility that 1 trip can happen multiple times.

I watched the video again. Still seemed fishy, but I understand the seeing music notes part now.

Ayahuasca + booze in tribal parties--huh? Caapi+alcohol--dangerous, no? Or were you talking about Jurema usage in Brazil where it's cold extracted mimosa with no caapi?

I also wouldn't mind seeing some references about the tribes where the men snort their snuffs "all day every day"--not because I doubt you, but that just sounds interesting. And fun/scary.

Yeah the Shuar consume fermented alcoholic maize drinks together with ayahuasca in some rituals. I have some antropology book that talks about it, if you want I can get the source, though its in portuguese.

The constant snuff use is also true, but I`m not sure if I`d call it `recreational use`, since their use always has a very deep aspect of respect and knowledge that they are using something sacred.

I just want to point out a couple of things about dmt and youth.

Unlike the time that LSD initially had under the spotlight, there is now a huge body of valid (non-propaganda) information available about drugs in general. If you are on this board, you know that. Youngsters make their way on here. Some of them are probably learning a lot. The ones who aren't, probably won't, but eventually, maybe they'll study dmt and learn to use it respectfully and responsibly. When I was a kid, I didn't even know that psychedelics could be used in a sacred context. Well, I did, but it was a distant concern. I still think the most sacred place for me, is wherever I feel comfortable (mostly my house). When I was young I wanted to trip out and have fun with my friends, and I took lots of acid, with no mind toward set and setting, which I was well informed about. I was a kid. Teenagers have poor impulse control.

My point is really this: Most of these youthful, potential proto-psychonauts will grow up. Many will leave psychedelics behind, believing that's what you are supposed to do when you grow up. Many will grow up to be responsible users of psychedelics like a most of us on this board are.

Young people grow into adults. DMT is no longer a secret. Hopefully anti-drug groups won't focus on it.

The LEO and the DEA know all about DMT. It isn't a high priority. It's self limiting. Don't get me wrong, some people push against is and try to make it a recreational drug, but it will never truly be one. The DEA knows this. Don't get me wrong, they'll still bust you for it. I know a guy who got arrested, because he was dumb enough to let the cops search his car at an illegal checkpoint where they were looking for "prescription and recreational drugs". He had nothing to hide, except he did. The cops found an empty donut bag, with sugar and crumbs in it. They said it could be "drug residue", arrested him and held him until he could afford bond.