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gusss
#1 Posted : 4/23/2013 1:31:18 PM

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I've been invited for my 2nd ayahuasca ceremony, this time, in a not toooo cold place, as in my first time, the cold wouldn't let me concentrate (I think). I am hopefully taking my girlfriend and a good friend of mine who wants to meet with himself!
I read about the diet one should have before the ceremony, and now I just don't understand. Before the first ceremony I was told to:
Diet some days before
No pig
No grease food
No acid (lemon, orange,etc...)
No milk
Low sugar
Low salt
Lots of water
No sex
No alcohol
No drugs
(ladies on their "moon" should not attend)

Some here say diet is not necesary, what about my friend having addiction to marihuana?
When should be the last time to smoke before aya?
 

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#2 Posted : 4/23/2013 3:25:46 PM

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All the best towards your journey, gusss. Smile

I believe dieta above and beyond a 6 hour empty stomach scenario is not necessary when embarking upon exploration outside of a container as presented/held by a shaman or some other ceremony leader. When you're subjecting yourself to a ceremony established by beings that have been in that tradition for years, I would think that honoring such requests would be in the best interest of all beings involved. When exploring as an individual or with friends, then I would believe you can do whatever you want, however, wherever, whenever, ETC.

I would stop smoking at least 24 hours before, 72 IF POSSIBLE. If your friend is addicted, I would seriously think that pushing him/herself to be as clean as possible pre ceremony would be a good idea.

Just my 2c. Enjoy! Smile
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sidefx
#3 Posted : 12/5/2013 10:41:01 PM

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Hola gusss
From my experience, which has so far only been with smoking various DMT Batches from various plant sources; I have found that being tired but rested helps me go Further.

and as for the fasting dieta, I believe it is so there is less compounds in your blood, ie salts and sugars minerals, acid alkaline.

not sure if its so more dmt can enter the blood, or so the dmt sits/travels better/longer in the purer blood?

or something.

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Hey Gusss
I am living in Bogota right now from New Zealand,
do you think you could help me find a ceremony close ?
"Given enough Time even Hydrogen starts to wonder where it came from, and where it is going"
 
bluesky
#4 Posted : 12/5/2013 11:31:54 PM

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The diet is very important if you are thinking about taking ayahuasca. Ayahuasca contains MAO inhibitors and if these are combined with tyramine you might get VERY high heart rate (approximatly maximum pulse) and high blood pressure among other symptoms.

People have died from consuming MAOI and tyramine rich food so it's a good idea to follow the diet wich contain little tyramine.

Here is some more information:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/maois/maois_info2.shtml
 
sidefx
#5 Posted : 12/8/2013 11:41:44 PM

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Yes

Some food will make you seriously sick, if you eat them to soon before a ceremony!
like blue cheeses and red wines.

Even could kill you.

medicines or drugs could react and cause body failure.


Do some searching its all easily found.
I have been told that its not absolutely necessary to do a full Shaman Diet;

which I have read consists mostly of rice and water.
an ayahuascero told me he had eaten rice and chicken many times with a shaman, earlier before ceremonies


Do Study
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#6 Posted : 12/9/2013 10:27:17 PM
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Even milk in the days before an ayahuasca gives me a headache during the experience. I agree with others on here that ayahuasca, by virtual of containing reversible maoi inhibitors, is generaly safer than pharam maoi when it comes to food interactions but I still see virtue in the food restrictions before and a few days after. Good luck.

Also, if someone is feeling addicted to marijuana, maybe it is time to kick that habit or reflect deeply on why they feel dependent on it? It is better to be in control of your own life rather than have a drug in control of your life in my opinion, no matter how benign the drug is.
 
gusss
#7 Posted : 1/14/2014 1:40:50 AM

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Sidefx andre is trying to contact me, but since I am a new member, I can't respond the message!
Please let me know if you read this so I can give you my number!
 
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#8 Posted : 1/14/2014 1:59:57 AM

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sidefx wrote:
Yes

Some food will make you seriously sick, if you eat them to soon before a ceremony!
like blue cheeses and red wines.

Even could kill you.

medicines or drugs could react and cause body failure.


Do some searching its all easily found.
I have been told that its not absolutely necessary to do a full Shaman Diet;

which I have read consists mostly of rice and water.
an ayahuascero told me he had eaten rice and chicken many times with a shaman, earlier before ceremonies


Do Study

I cannot respond to the messages, since I am only a one year old member!

 
sidefx
#9 Posted : 1/14/2014 11:25:12 PM

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hey gusss,
That's difficult, I didn't realise there was a block between messages of members of, 'rank'

no es Bueno !

especially you have been a member for a year.

And from your posts you show a lot of respect, and eagerness to learn, experience, help!

And to think ENGLISH is NOT your Native Toungue !!!!!
RESPECT BROTHER

You have my vote brother.
You deserve to delve deeper into the knowledge of The Nexus' Pleased


Aya ~ Yage ~ DMT - actually found me in quite the same manner it found you, I Knew Nothing of it when it finally found Me !



How went your 'psycotria viridis' ?
I here Cuttings from mother plants can be hard to grow, like a cannabis cutting.
I don't think psycotria viridis' is good for making DMT crystal, but perfect for Yage brews


"Given enough Time even Hydrogen starts to wonder where it came from, and where it is going"
 
gusss
#10 Posted : 1/15/2014 12:12:41 PM

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Well, thanks.!!
As for the psicotria leaf cuttings, they were brought from miami to bogota since I couldn't find a reliable source over here, and shamans and indians are a bit selfish talking about this and offer no help in the process of growing the plant.
3 months after the cuttings have rooted, and planted in soil, nothing had happened, until I came back from a 15 day trip.
When I left, I watered my cuttings, and besides, I left a big crystal quartz in the center of the pot, which I programmed with, love, growth, evolution of the plant and to help me in my spiritual evolution....
I came back 3 days ago, just to notice 3 out 6 plants were growing, and the tallest is about 3 inches! Wow that's unexpected!
So that's the story of my plants... And yes, crystal quartz helps alot, and if anyone else wants to try it out, just get some quartz, clean them in running water or sea salt, charge them in moon or sun light, and program them an set your intention!
Remember the key is.... Love and thankfulnessssss!
Andre, get to me through gchagui at gmail (dot) com
 
 
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