Hello fellow shroom lovers

Strain Thai Purple cubes.

I have never seen a pinset from a rye cake (PF cakes but using 100% rye berries rather than BRF/Verm) like this before, maybe its the strain?

GT and Cambodians don't pin 1/2 this amount!



More pics?

Peace

Yes please

By the way, what made you choose to go with the rye berries?

Hi there, I figured verm has no nutes in it, or very little nutes, brf is just rice flour which has only a limited amount of nutrients just due to amount of dry weight of flour compared to verm content, so the overall available nutrients from BRF cakes is pretty low in my option

So I figured why not use a sub strait that's 100% nutes.

So this is what I do

* Soak the rye for 24 hours in water (germinate those nasty endospores)
* Boil the crap out of the rye! literally until almost every berry is splitting and the water is going all starchy, just like over cooking pasta
* Rinse it off with hot water then I lay them out on a huge bath towel and literally rub then dry to the touch.

so now the rye is packed with water, but no water is going to pool at the bottom and cause either the cakes to stall or give them wet spot, so I just top the cake with dry verm like a normal BRF and pressure cook for 90 mins at 15 psi

The myc colonizes the cake in like 8-12 days from an ms spore inoculation.

I believe that pure rye will produce a much larger overall yield than using BRF, and they will flush 4 times... and there are some monsters on the last flushes, well for cakes at least.

I hope this explains my madness sorry I mean my methods.

some more pics below









peace

They look wonderful.

Good idea with the berries, the results are SUPER!!!

thanks

only problem with pure grain cakes, they are more prone to contams than standard BRF after the first dunk, but a short 30 min bleach dunk followed by 24 hours fresh water dunk usually works a treat!

more pics to follow

Hi

Final Weight from 3 x 100% rye berry cakes, flush #1

224 g wet



There is one more rye cake that is a few days behind, ill take a pic of that one tomorrow.

drying out



Peace

This is awesome! Soooo many shrooms on every cake?! Oh man I gotta try this method.

Glad you like the pics

I think it could be the strain that is responsible for the amount of pins, but I do believe that rye cakes do provide a much higher overall yield (more shrooms) thas simple BRF and verm.

if you give rye cakes a try, please do let me know how you get on

Peace

When you are talking about using rye berry cakes, are you referring to making a cake out of nothing but rye grain that has been powdered? I want to try growing some of my own cubes at some point after I get my own place to live, and would love to try this method.

I have yet to grow cubes, so I will probably do the BRF cakes first, but after a few of those I would love to do the rye idea. Maybe do both rye and BRF cakes side by side with the same strain to see how they compare, which should show if it is indeed the strain that is causing so many pins or if it is actually the fact that they are growing on a more nutritious substrate.

So if I understand correctly, instead of using a mixture of BRF and Verm to create the cakes, all you are doing is wetting down a bunch of rye flour and forming cakes with that, then placing that into a jar with a layer of verm over the top and sterilizing in a pressure cooker? This seems easy enough, but it does suck that they are more prone to contamination after the first flush.

Regarding the quick 30 second dunk in bleach prior to dunking in water, is this being done with straight bleach? Or a mixture of water and bleach? If its a mixture, what ratios of both water and bleach are you using? I feel that this could easily damage the mycelium if not done properly with the correct ratios of everything.

Great findings, keep up the good work!

hi there, glad you liked the post

They are 100% rye grain no powdering or grinding. I soak and boil the grains and then put in a jar and top with dry verm and pc.... its the same procedure for a BRF cake but instead of verm coated in rice flour we used pure rye berries.

if you are new, always start with the pf brf cake tek. you will learn enough from that to do most other things. if you can master pf tek, you are on your way

I say they are more prone to contams but only slightly, the bleach dunk is controversial, some don't like it, I reread my post, I said 30 seconds, that should read 30 mins, and no it is very diluted bleach, say a 1:100, bleach:water solution... im guessing I just put a tiny bit in, so its about 1:100

Bleach can damage the mycelium if you used a lot of bleach and dunked them for an extended period of time, but saying that, I have dunked cakes that have flushed 4 times in very strong bleach for 12 hours + and they fruited again! but others would probably frown on this practice and I cannot blame them... but the mycelium recovers and fruits and the shrooms are as potent as any other ones with no noticeable difference between them and shrooms from a none bleached cake...

I have seen cubensis mycelium eat a patch of cobweb on a huge bulk mono tub that I had sprayed with very strong bleach! the bleach killed the cobweb and the mycelium ate through the substrait where I sprayed the bleach!

So I would recommend reading up on bleach dunks before you try them, with brf you don't need to bleach dunk anything, but you can, its optional, but read up on it first so you don't do anything wrong or potentially poison yourself (dunno how you would poison yourself doing a bleach dunk, but bleach is toxic if consumed so caution is recommended)

Best of luck, more pics soon

Peace

Pics of last Thai cake as promised

yeilded just under 90g wet

pictures are from all 4 sides and from the top








Peace

I also have a, done as a quick bulk test, small tray of thai

other than a daily mist it has been neglected, no casing, 1:5 spawn : straw ... still doing ok i guess.

got a couple of days left on it






Peace

It looks like the tub did not do as well as the cakes...what do you think could of caused this? Could it be from just neglecting it?

Totally!

If I set out to get a decent yield (which I didn't really, just seeing how it performed etc), I would of first made sure there where more nutrients at the top of the sub, ie more grain at the top so the shrooms have lots of nutrients they can draw from, I would of done a 1:3 ratio of spawn:sub rather than a 1:5.

also straw isn't that high in nutrients, but its more contam resistant than other bulk substrates .... so I should of used hpoo, hey, coir or a combo instead of straw, I should of added some gypsum too.

then I would of made sure it got lots of FAE fresh air exchange and I would of lightly cased it with verm.

I was just being lazy tbh .... if I had done the above it would of had 3 times the shrooms than it has now....

it was more a test to see how big the heads would get and to see how fast it colonized the sub.

Peace

I just scanned down all those photos. Now i have to change my shorts. Thanks...

This is the most insane amount of mushrooms per cake I've very seen. I wanna replicate this, did you get your spores online?

thanks for the props

yeah I got them about a year ago, in a syringe, they are just standard thai cubensis strain.

The strain is known for lots of smaller shrooms but I like to think that it was my handy work that did it! but its probably mainly the strain and the 100% rye as a sub that made it pin so much.

100% rye or wbs cakes produce way more pins / shrooms than brf cakes imho and you can expect 4-5 flushes from a rye cake.

If you are going to do cakes, try pure wbs or rye, I have done this several times and I can say from exp, you wont be disappointed

Peace

lol!

that made me laugh

thank you for the props glad you liked the post

Peace.

Infinity,
In my research, I determined rye to be the best substrate medium for cubes and most psy-shrooms. And this is something I learned years ago. Am running my first BRF cakes now based on PF tek. It's day # 4 since inoculation and all my jars have little white baby spots forming at the glass. I'm going to be a mommy!!!!!

If I could figure out how to post pics from an iPad, I woud gladly share!!

Here's a shot of the innoculation jars on Day 2.