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some questions about LSA a/b extraction Options
 
eitan3
#1 Posted : 12/21/2013 11:39:18 PM
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this is my first time I try LSA extraction and I want to try a/b extartion.
if I understart currect the steps is: ground the seed to a powder, soak the powder into acidic water (I use H2O + cirtic acid), use nonpolar solvent to wash away the fats and the bad stuff, basify the acidic water to 8 PH, wash again the water with nonpolar solvent and evaporate the solvent.
I see everywhere that people use naphtha or xylene for the nonpolar solvent, in my country its hard to get this stuff and i think it unsafe to use this chemicals. So I think to use coconut oil instead of naphtha.
this is my version for a/b extraction inspired by "Kash's Advanced LSA Extraction" (https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=35607&p=3)

1) gound the seeds to powder.
2) soak the powder in acetone and mix for couple of hour. after mixing let the acetone dry
3) add to the dry crude LSA H2O with cirtic acid and mix for 10 minutes.
4) put inside oil and mix for 10 minutes (I use coconut oil).
5) filter the oil (I filter the oil by putting the solution inside my fridge. coconut oil freeze at 25C so you can filter the oil easly) save the liquid and discard the oil
6) bacify the liquid and pour inside coconut oil again. Mix for 20 minutes.
7) filter the solution and save the oil.

this tek can work? if it can work can you make crystals from the oil? and if it doesnt work, how can i use oil to extract LSA crystals?

 

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jackeh
#2 Posted : 12/23/2013 12:51:22 AM
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soak the powder in acetone and mix for couple of hour. after mixing let the acetone dry
3) add to the dry crude LSA H2O with cirtic acid and mix for 10 minutes.


In the tek that you sourced the powder was mixed with acetone and then filtered. This seed pulp mush is having the LSA extracted from it by the acetone. In that tek, the seed mush is discarded after extraction and the acetone is then stored - whereas in your tek you have mixed with acetone and then let the acetone evaporate again, removing the purpose of the acetone.

With your method you will still have whatever impurities that wouldn't have dissolved during the acetone stage.

(Unless you intended to filter and discard the mush but I wasn't sure from your post)

Also, I'm not 100% sure on this - but coconut oil contains several acids. When you get around to basifying the solution, you may end up forming several salts. These salts may stay dissolved in the coconut oil due to the long carbon chains in the fatty acids (but again I'm not totally sure, I'm not that great with chemistry) which will result in some impurities in your resultant DMT.
 
MystikRabbit420
#3 Posted : 1/7/2014 7:51:13 PM
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i made an extraction by crushing 250 Morning Glory Seeds in a mortal and pestal. i then procceded to

1) soak crushed seeds in ether for 2 hours. This extracts all the bad stuff that results in a rough trip
2)strain ether solution and let seeds dry, discard the ether
3)soak dry seeds in everclear, however i used water with lemon juice, ive been told this works just about as well.
4) after about 1 hour, i let mine soak overnight, strain lemon juice solution and discard the seeds.

I have yet to drink this elixr but have heard that from this exact process that the trip is very smooth and hits hard
 
MystikRabbit420
#4 Posted : 1/7/2014 7:54:55 PM
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eitan3 wrote:

I see everywhere that people use naphtha or xylene for the nonpolar solvent, in my country its hard to get this stuff and i think it unsafe to use this chemicals.



It is safe as long as you know what you are doing. Chemicals, such as ether, evaporate quite rapidly so there is actually no chemical left behind, should the proper amount of time be alloted for evaporation.
 
hummus
#5 Posted : 1/7/2014 10:50:25 PM

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MystikRabbit420 wrote:
i made an extraction by crushing 250 Morning Glory Seeds in a mortal and pestal. i then procceded to

1) soak crushed seeds in ether for 2 hours. This extracts all the bad stuff that results in a rough trip
2)strain ether solution and let seeds dry, discard the ether
3)soak dry seeds in everclear, however i used water with lemon juice, ive been told this works just about as well.
4) after about 1 hour, i let mine soak overnight, strain lemon juice solution and discard the seeds.

I have yet to drink this elixr but have heard that from this exact process that the trip is very smooth and hits hard

When I was ingesting HWBR seeds, I can certainly confirm that simply doing 1) and 2) and then putting the powder into capsules makes for a strong smooth trip with significantly less nausea, however LSA will still make you feel uncomfortable and have moderate vasoconstriction effects however much you clean it up, use caution with dosage and eat a bar of chocolate. In my experience one 00 size capsule was plenty but your mileage may vary.
 
MystikRabbit420
#6 Posted : 1/16/2014 7:46:57 PM
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Opinions about crushing the seeds up and putting them into melted chocolate? would this work to help with nasuea? I aslo heard that dark chocolate helps with the Vasconiation effects
 
 
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