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xplus93
#1 Posted : 1/4/2014 8:34:01 PM
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Good quality Syrian rue (Peganum harmala) for an incredible price!
 
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#2 Posted : 1/4/2014 8:48:15 PM
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Alright, I am SUCH a beginner at this but I'll get the ball rolling.

Haven't made my own changa but have been looking into it. Might go to this nearby 'herb/metaphysical/crystal' shop later and try to look some stuff up.

Basically you can make it out of whatever herbs you want. Again, I can't give you specifics yet but I believe it's worthwhile to include some kind of MAOI herb, just like in real ayahuasca. Changa is just basically a smokable form. I'm thinking maybe Syrian Rue or Passionflower, then maybe I'd let the gurus at the shop suggest some kind of tasty and or texture adding herb.

I kind of plan to make and use some changa in conjunction with some regular ole crystal DMT. Not sure on the strategy yet, but I really like where the crystal takes me but would like to be able to slow down/draw it out a bit. Also been wondering about DPT with DMT but that's a different story and thread entirely...

I've also noticed you can buy actual harmala extract (the active MAOI in proper ayahuasca) on eBay and such. I'm not sure if that can be smoked, or if it's better/different to ingest it beforehand and wait until it activates to use crystal DMT. Anyone hip to that?
 
xplus93
#3 Posted : 1/4/2014 9:28:35 PM
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#4 Posted : 1/4/2014 10:02:09 PM

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First off, AgentClaret, read the Attitude page.

The Attitude Page wrote:
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This includes all isolated psychedelic compounds and RCs (Research Chemicals), whether they are legal or not. The only goods allowed to be discussed are legal live plants, legal viable seeds (both in the Sustainable plant and seed suppliers subforum) and legal/unwatched chemical supplies. See Street Value of DMT (AND WHY YOU SHOULDN'T EVER SELL DMT AND OTHER PSYCHEDELICS) for good reasons why we don't allow this.

Harmalas aren't necessary when making changa, but they potentiate the DMT, make the experience longer, and kind of "stretch it out" meaning the onset is longer and the landing is longer. Extracted harmalas can be smoked with DMT or used sublingually to this effect. Harmalas are extremely easy to extract. There is a plethora of information about harmalas, changa, and enhanced leaf on The Wiki and throughout the forum.

xplus93, I'm not sure I fully understand your question. Are you asking about simply soaking a DMT-containing plant in IPA, then evaporating that IPA onto leaf matter? I wouldn't recommend this method. The first reason for this is because alkaloid content in plants can vary tremendously. It would be impossible to calculate how much source plant matter to use to achieve 200mg/gram enhanced leaf, because there is no way to say for sure how much DMT will be in your source plant matter unless some of that same batch has been extracted previously.

The second reason I wouldn't recommend this is because this method would yield a final product containing a whole lot of stuff in addition to DMT (oils, plant fats, tiny particles of plant tissue, etc.) which would probably be very unpleasant to smoalk.

The third reason I wouldn't recommend this method is because it gives the impression that you are simply looking for the fastest way to get some smoalkable DMT. These things require patience, there is no need to rush into it. Do some reading, check out the threads on the Nexus, read about extraction techniques, and eventually think about whether or not an extraction is something you'd be capable of doing and something you would want to do. There are some very simple extraction teks on the forum, some of which even use common food-safe, household chemicals. DMT likes patience.
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xplus93
#5 Posted : 1/5/2014 3:45:16 AM
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#6 Posted : 1/5/2014 11:48:32 AM

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xplus93 wrote:
I'm not exactly looking for the quickest method, but the simplest. I've read a bunch of the teks on the site and it all uses an acid/base method and when it's made food safe it becomes more complicated. I would prefer something as simple and natural as possible (I know the blatantly obvious answer is to just make ayahuasca) What is the absolute simplest and most natural method of infusing dmt into marijuana at about 200mg/g?

Well, there you have it. If you want simple go with an A/B, or an STB if you have access to Mimosa Hostilis rootbark. If you want natural/food-safe, go with one of the dry teks on the wiki. There is really not a whole lot of middle ground because in order to perform a food-safe/natural extraction, once has to take a few extra steps. If food-safe teks were simpler and more reliable than "standard" teks, people probably wouldn't be using lye or hydrocarbon solvents for extractions. The food-safe teks really aren't all that much more complicated than the standard A/B.
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