Has anyone read the book Ayahuasca in my Bood by Peter Gorman?

I am almost at the end of it and I enjoy reading it, but can't help to think how true all of this is? I realize this spirit world of the shamans is very unfamiliar to me, but he actually talks about riding a snake to go look for people in the jungle, or flying with a bird to his apartment in NYC to notice that his furniture has been moved. What I find even more strange is that he seems to be able to do this every time when he chooses to.

I am willing to believe this could be the case, but can't help having this part of me thinking it is complete bs...

It reminds me of Carlos Castaneda quite a bit.

Have any of you guys experienced this with Ayahuasca and are you able to do this at will?

It's a good book.

I have had experiences like that. It happens when you use a lot of vine in a brew. Very high doses of vine or peganum harmala with not too much DMT admixture plants can produce experiences like that. They last a lot longer and there is heavy ataxia and more vomiting for me. It's been hard to even get up and walk around to the washroom when you have that much harmalas. Doses of beta-carbolines like that will produce tracers all over the room around you. Moving your head back and forth slowly can be too much.

You have to prepare well for an experience like that.

Can you share one these experiences or direct me to some reports of it?

Have you had experiences with the virotes and such things as well?

It's a whole world that to me seems so crazy, it's hard to believe. But I'm willing to believe it as I think there are more things to reality than we even imagine.

The brews I am talking about generally had very large doses of vine or rue, sometimes both in the same brew..mimosa and chaliponga were both added..mapacho..sometimes other plants like cats claw. It's been over a year since I drank any brews like that.

What I am talking about is over 5g of rue..more like 6-7g..some people talk about using 10g of rue to compare to the ammounts of vine used in the deep jungle. With vine it is harder to judge IME, becasue vine potency can differ so much. But with adverage caapi I would say 200g or more.

It's not a pleasant experience for me..and it is very different from a normal tryptamine experience. Doses of vine or rue like this are already very visionary without the tryptamines present, and take you more into a shamanic dreamland kind of experience.

The experience is like being fully absorbed into a another realm.

Those are indeed crazy dosages!!! I have no idea if I'll ever be ready for that kind of experience.

Did you do those dosages alone or with a shaman present if I may be so curious?

Aya in my blood is one of my favorites...Also read wizard of the upper amazon, since they compliment each other nicely (its a very quick read to. I think I read it in 2 sittings). Its a true story involving a boy who was kidnapped by a tribe in the early 1900's and eventually made their master shaman and chief. What a wild book. To the people who've been working with it for thousands of years, these types of experiences are considered common place.

During the time I was reading aya in my blood I was drinking aya at least once a week, and microdosing daily. I had a lot of interesting synchronicities in connection with that book, and many other bizarre experiences that seem to defy conventional explanations. Sometimes for example experiencing something one night (either on aya or in extremely bizarre dreams), only to read the next day about him having an eerily similar experience. One that comes to mind is the person made of galaxies/stars/etc. The amount of synchronicities and precognitive visions/dreams etc in general was greatly increased during that time.

Jamie has a good point about the higher doses of vine/rue/harmalas. Not only are the higher dose experiences beyond what most people would assume, but working with it frequently in general seems to be able to catalyze a number of things that seem unbelievable to people. Its not surprising that the first westerners to encounter one of the alks in the vine "telepathine"

But I should probably add that I never drank 200g vine or 5g rue. You might not need that much. The most vine I've had is 150g, but that is enough to put me in these dreamworlds and OBEs without any dmt involved. My sensitivity changed though overtime and these days just 2 or 3g rue usually puts me in that state. Its kind of a learned thing in some ways and started manifesting more and deepening/evolving the more I worked with it. But still silent darkness is always key. You want to enter the deeper brainwave states

As someone who has only done ayahuasca once, I can't even come close to those experiences. It seems out of this world (and probably is).

Will surely read wizard of the upper amazon. Thanks for the tip.
I have just ordered Singing to the Plants.

I wish I hadn't read the book, if only because all the talk of brujeria made me completely revise (involuntarily and irreversibly) the way I look at certain DMT experiences for the worse. If I could go back, I don't think I'd read it again.

I've only read bits and pieces of singing to the plants, mostly for an anthropology paper, but from what i remember it was very interesting and thorough

Several years ago when I first started to research Ayahausca, this is one of the first books I read. Thought it was great.

Elpo, have you checked out the book bin thread? In the last couple years, I have read so many amazing books. Thanks to that thread. So, Thanks everyone @ the Nexus for that!

If its real or not? It sure seemed real to Peter Gorman.
My experience with Aya is not extensive enough to judge.
From what I've experienced myself, and opinions of others,
It seems the possibilities are infinite.



I Also, recommmend Wizard of the upper Amazon. I read it directly after Aya in my blood. Definitely on the same page.

Can you elaborate on that Global? Do you feel like there is someone of something with a bad intention towards you?


Yes I know about the Book bin and all the other bins. I browse them regularly, so much to read still

It really does seem as if the possibilities are endless, I think that's what keeps drawing me towards these experiences. My curiousness and this internal need for self development in all possible ways.

It's not that I necessarily feel that there is someone with a bad intention towards me. I don't encounter "people" in hyperspace like he does, particularly ones I know. The closest I've come to "people" are archetypal golden mannequin-like people, but I welcome their presence.

You see, I've experienced these "glitches" in hyperspace for some time - probably since before reading Ayahuasca in My Blood, but the way that I consciously react to them has changed since reading the book. Prior to the book, the worst they could seem to do was derail the experience in the sense that everything would be unfolding nicely, then a blemish in the background might start developing and coming forward, come up to me, and then do much of what seemed like "nothing" and things wouldn't usually get much further from there, so at best they were minor frustrations. I recall trying to communicate with them, but they were like broken computer programs. They never communicate anything - no psycho-verbal telepathic language like their well-arranged counterparts or anything like that - so their intentions (if they have any) are masked even more heavily than other entities...even ones that may only speak in gibberish.

So I'm getting to the part that kind of freaks me out a bit about them. You see I (like many I'm sure) find the experience to be very energy/frequency based. To me, practically all of hyperspace is made of energy from the landscape to the objects to the architecture to the entities. Successful interactions with most "regular" entities (I'll avoid using the word "positive" here cause they're not necessarily always the cheeriest bunch) typically leaves me feeling elated, with my energy channels blown wide open as I can feel the biomagnetic energy just brimming around me. Interactions with these glitches do not produce the same reaction. These glitches, these often knotted, mangled, crumpled dark brown things, when they make their way over to me and make contact, they leave behind this very sticky, slimy, fuzzy energy (most predominantly on the spot where they make physical contact) and I can feel my emotions sort of plummet. It becomes quite difficult to impossible to remove the sticky energy myself. If I touch it with my hand, it just sticks to my hand, and I can rub it in between my fingers, but it just sticks as sticky substances tend to do. Eventually as the DMT fades, so too goes my perception of the sticky energy (thankfully) but it of course becomes unclear as to when it goes away. It should seem that the most effective manner of remedying these matters is to have another entity sort of reverse the situation, but this of course involves re-entering hyperspace and hoping that I don't get ambushed. I find a correlation between these sticky energy patches and the virotes of the Amazon. Peter Gorman talked extensively about how tricky it was to remove the virotes, finding much of his effectiveness in mapacho and floral water (neither of which I've ever acquired).

So now comes the part as to what to do. Abstinence from hyperspace is one option, though not too appealing when you want to be there (kinda like sex and STDs I guess). Then there's the "surrender" response, and while it may be effective from time to time, I don't find it to be a very reliable approach to this particular situation of glitching entities with their fuzzy energies. Sometimes it may work, turning the negative energy on its head, but most of the time, it seems like waiting there as a sitting duck is just what they "want" you to do if there's but one thing they want. Surrendering/doing nothing also leaves the possibility of another entity to step in and "save the day". Often for me it will be the godhead, but most recently it was a singing troupe of hyperspace dwellers...and do be honest I'm not even sure what they did with the glitch, it was like they folded it away and out of the "house" we were in. There was only one time I saw the godhead sort of "lose" in which the (in this case very big) glitch had stickily affixed itself to the godhead. I don't remember how that one turned out, but chances are not too spectacular.

Again, hoping that someone will show up to save my ass is not something that I typically wanna wait around for because it often won't happen (even if I "call" for help). I have devised two essential strategies for dealing with them (the latter of which I find to be most reliable and effective). In DMT and Attention (negative entity mitigation), I outlined my discovery of the attention's direct impact on hyperspace, and how by choosing to acknowledge and focus on the blemishes/glitches actually allows them to become more powerful, developed, and progressed into the foreground toward me. Again, not so reliable as their inconsistent appearance with the rest of hyperspace naturally calls attention to them (perhaps an evolutionary design for these scavengers of hyperspace), and some of the more powerful ones have enough energy to do as they please anyway.

I received possibly my first hint as to what these glitches actually are in the vaulted dome "living room" of the mansion in hyperspace that I regularly frequent. Sometimes it's inhabited, and sometimes not. This one particular occasion I'm recounting, there were several of these regular characters laying inert on the floor. All was silent. Suddenly a sequence of high pitches is heard which animates the entities of the room. I feel the air (or empty space) fill with charge, as both I and the entity immediately in front of me float up into the vaulted space, bobbing weightlessly in a sea of magnetism. It was quite delightful. Then the entity proceeded to put on a demonstration for me in which it folded itself up over and over....and over and over until it resembled a rather large version of the dark brown mangled glitches. I never felt threatened by it though, as I felt like I was being shown something of their geometric nature or something of the sort. It then unfolded itself as effortlessly as it bunched itself up. There was a sort of "aha" moment where I realized transformation of these things was possible.

Later on, in another experience in which I smoked harmine and DMT, I encountered an entity that to this day I have (luckily) found to be a one-off. It was not necessarily mangled or glitchy or brown, but rather like the cooky cousin of some of the more "regular" geometric abstraction entities. It was an extremely unsettling experience, but regardless this big scary fella might have actually have been the one to (possibly inadvertently) give me the proper tool to deal with any unwelcome entities. As I mentioned at the beginning of this post, I find the experience to be highly energy based. Many of us are familiar with the Qi-Gong like postures or autonomous physical movements that these energies can spur our bodies to do, but something rather unique happened toward the end of this cooky encounter. The energy in the room spurred me to use my voice in a most unconventional way - in fact I had never used it as such or realized it was even a possibility. I began "singing" a tone which got lower and lower and lower, way past below where I thought my vocal cords could allow until it was this guttural, fully resonant, inhuman sounding throat chant which seemed to apparently remedy the situation one way or another (don't exactly remember what happened). This was my cue that now that I knew how to do this throat singing along with its potential that I gained my most effective means for dealing with these entities. It began to make so much sense. Sound (as frequency) has a very powerful impact on hyperspace (as frequency). The throat chanting not only provides powerful audio vibration, but it somewhat violently causes the whole body (and particularly the chest cavity) to resonate with vibration quite heavily. I believe it to be the interaction of these vibrations that creates such a strong effect (as opposed to perhaps regular singing). As a side note, I've played my guitar in hyperspace before, and it is quite intriguing how different geometries are created by playing different keys or using different chords.

In Unraveling Negative Entities, I recount an occasion where the singing was most ideal and effective in its action, and in post #9, I provide an illustration of this somewhat alchemical process in the transformation of the crude negative glitch into the delicate, subtle, dainty and beautiful multidimensional geometries. I hope this is thorough enough insight into my dealings with negativity in hyperspace. Perhaps I'm better off for having read the book, so I could be lead through these experiences that show me how to protect myself to what might have otherwise been rather contented energetic parasites. For me, the jury is still not out on these things, their intentions, or the full repercussions for interacting with their sticky energies, but there you have it.

It sounds a lot like the things Peter Gorman speaks about. Maybe you could also try asking the entities if they are your teacher like he does in the book. As he puts it, only the guides will remain and otherwise the entity will go away.

Also I find your theory on using sound very interesting. The importance of the shaman singing during a ceremony can't be underestimated in my opinion. It really guides the experience. I guess that this is only one of the reasons why it is done.

Thanks a lot for sharing Global.

Yeah, I've tried that. I've tried a lot of things. I've tried loving them, accepting them, talking to them...they don't talk back. Some entities will talk back, they never do. I've also never had one that's actually answered the "are you my teacher?" question so I stopped asking