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So don't bump it you dooze! I wary the possibility that there might not be a direct correlation. That might not be so polite to Tango
Buuut, since you bumped the thread. I've gained some insight from reading it, a shower and some massaging the side of my chest relieved headache in the back of my head and sort of directed it to the front of the skull where it still hurt but isn't so painful. I suppose this is what Tango has been doing? Redirecting the tension.
Simply focusing my attention to muscles inside the hip though (Connected to the spine?), this directed my attention to what i call to myself kundalini energy and it connected me to 'tears' somewhere hidden in this tension that i have been trying to access since i first noted these 'tears' in a vaped dmt session. They are still there, i haven't been able to access them directly but i know it's there.
I have not exercised these muscles. I have been wondering why i don't progress with Yoga. Grown some abdomen muscles and have been waking up with pain in my chest for two days now. They are completely gone after about 10 minutes or so but still. I have had some annoying tension in my neck for some time now and have had headaches since i was like 6. Maybe i should try vaping DMT when i am less chickenshit than now, that shit is scary lol. I love how it can release headache for some people. I think part of the rejunevating feeling of dmt is that it can rapidly release a lot of tension in the muscles.
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yes but a regular excercise routine ,swimming, heading to the gym or dancing can all help there is no need to perform this weirdness being polite is one thing and to help alleviate ones suffering through correct information is another , and with the info i have provided tango should be able to save himself if he chooses to stop practicing this weirdness also the title of this thread states this can fix all physical/mental issues , yet whats happening is something else all together .......... otherwise tango should have been feeling good rather than the unusual transformation that is happening to him also i have done something similar years back so i speak from experience , its just sad what is happening to him edit : also the things about sound and breath i have mentioned in the other thread, its not like i am profiting , whatever i have said is for his profit , tango the way is not to control your body , the way is to control your mind as it will automatically control and heal your body , and there is where the methods i have mentioned will help you practice what i have written in the other thread 24x7 and forget about controlling your body , your mind will do it automatically once you learn to control your mind if you think , thoughts will make you do thousand and one unnecessary things , stop thinking and start being , the body will heal automatically without any effort on your part i would really like to hear you have healed yourself , and i know you can illusions !, there are no illusions there is only that which is the truth
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What reasons do you have to believe that there is a correlation? I like using my foam roller and have turned on other people in the process. IT does help to relax muscles if used regularly. To my knowledge, human to human massages are not considered "weird" but even prescribed by medical doctors to release muscle tensions. Please back up your statements by something more tangible.
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tango wrote:I posted here before regarding my revelations with the foam roller. Since then, I have come across a different method, which works wonderfully and it doesn't require you to buy any device or do anything, the OP is not talking about using a foam roller , he's taking about a new method he came up with that requires no foam roller , the above statement is proof of that , i would'nt be having any issue with him using a foam roller tango wrote: Basically, all you need to do is identify a region that's tight (in guys that's often the hip area, including the psoas, which is possibly the most important muscle group), pick a muscle, and make it vibrate. Once you get it to vibrate steadily, you can turn on the tv if you want, as long as you can maintain the vibrations going. However, the benefit of staying focused on what's going on in the body is that you can direct the vibrations to neighboring areas, like from the hamstrings deep inside the groin.
The revelation, for me, was that you have to keep it going (for hours, if you have the time). imagine him doing some strange vibratory thing with his groin for hours at a time , do i really need to explain myself , the OP is clearly trying to manipulate his body with tricks he invented the point is these tricks are dangerous and the result is in the other thread , due to severe contortions and other activities like directing vibrations to areas of the body which manipulate the body has eventually led to this unusual transformation the OP needs to stop manipulating his body otherwise use long practiced methods or learn these things from a practioner who know what they are doing , because such activities should lead to healthy life , not cause suffering to the body if there is suffering then clearly the OP is not doing it correctly or the whole thing is dangerous also in the other thread OP has already mentioned how much he likes to manipulate his body , now someone who is going to stress their vehicle in such a way for hours at a time for no worthwhile reason .........well this leads to the unusual transformation the OP is going through guys i only want some healing for everyone so they can enjoy life as much as i do , that is the reason i told him how to heal illusions !, there are no illusions there is only that which is the truth
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I'm sorry Jin, i'm too quick sometimes. I thought this was the foam roller thread. I have no idea what this is all about, but i personally like to stick to the foam roller i think .
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^^ i know you mean well brother , also by any chance guys if i have caused some suffering , please forgive me , especially brother tango if i have said something that increased your suffering please forgive me i don't want to be one of those that add to your suffering (i know my posts are always tinted with a little negativity , i don't know why ) i also mean well and am very serious about what i said about the methods , heal yourself now illusions !, there are no illusions there is only that which is the truth
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Jin wrote: especially brother tango So you're in then? Welcome to the Brotherhood
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just some guy
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tango wrote:Jin wrote: especially brother tango So you're in then? Welcome to the Brotherhood OH Lordy... You're killing me, Tango. I'm gonna break a rib laughing! (And I might not be joking ) Welcome, Brother Jin! Together we shall bring about the glorious reign of the Dark One! We knew you'd come around eventually. After your long and painful initiation, do be sure to join us in the back for some Kool-Aid and vitamins! All the better to speed your transition...
In all sincerity, Jin... Don't you think you're putting a little too much effort into this conversation? You've been criticizing tango's sanity and questioning his motives for weeks in another thread; and now you're going so far as to do this? To look up Tango's old posts and call attention to them in this way is neither productive nor convincing. Overkill, man... Yes... Tango's methods and descriptions are strange, but all of the behaviors and techniques you mentioned were developed as necessary tools for coping with or healing from an injury or illness that had already existed for quite some time. His methods, however injurious you may think they are, are most definitely not the cause of his troubles. Since you don't seem to mind spending lots of time digging through tango's old posts and putting your mind to word in order to contribute to his conversation, why not actually comprehend what he's got to say, rather than just digging up more evidence to support your opinion? I'd bet you'd learn a lot more, and as a result put all that effort to better use. Jin wrote:also by any chance guys if i have caused some suffering , please forgive me Forgive you? Not likely. As a matter of fact, I am so furious as a result of reading your posts that I can hardly see straight right now. On a personal level, I find what you have written in these conversations the past few days to be completely reprehensible. Tango is just a fairly regular guy who is going through some very strange challenges, and must do everything he can to overcome them. It is disgusting to me that you assume that Tango is somehow at fault, even when it is obvious by reading his words that his condition has been plaguing him since birth or very early childhood. Even more ridiculous is the insinuation that he may have some strange intention to somehow unnaturally modify his body or transform into some kind of creature. This is so unfounded and ridiculous that I would have trouble convincing myself that you're not delusional. Your lack of sympathy or consideration is disgusting, and is causing you to waste a lot of time simply because you have not at least applied middle-school level reading comprehension skills to reading Tango's words. This is not a difference of opinion, this is your own failure to understand what is written in front of your face. Nothing more.
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Hiyo Quicksilver wrote: In all sincerity, Jin... Don't you think you're putting a little too much effort into this conversation?
yess , if you look through my posts you'll understand i have a tendency to visit threads where there is a lot of suffering and try to help , perhaps this is the only mistake i made Hiyo Quicksilver wrote: Yes... Tango's methods and descriptions are strange, but all of the behaviors and techniques you mentioned were developed as necessary tools for coping with or healing from an injury or illness that had already existed for quite some time. His methods, however injurious you may think they are, are most definitely not the cause of his troubles how do you know , you're suffering through something similar i understand , perhaps suffering is blinding you from the truth , i would suggest you practice what i have even told to tango so you can heal aswell , Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:As a matter of fact, I am so furious as a result of reading your posts that I can hardly see straight right now. On a personal level, I find what you have written in these conversations the past few days to be completely reprehensible no need to be furious , this will not help you with your suffering , it will only make it worse , follow the methods to healing and happiness , Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:Tango is just a fairly regular guy who is going through some very strange challenges, and must do everything he can to overcome them. It is disgusting to me that you assume that Tango is somehow at fault, even when it is obvious by reading his words that his condition has been plaguing him since birth or very early childhood its not mentioned anywhere this has been a problem since childhood , otherwise why would after years tango start a thread about this issue , if it was a childhood problem he would be either well adjusted to this issue or have already healed , he would also know exactly what he is suffering from if it was a childhood problem , he would even know a scientific name for this condition rather than calling it an unusual transformation (from what i understand this is an autoimmune condition perhaps , how i know this is not very important , the important thing is to go to the doc ) Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:Even more ridiculous is the insinuation that he may have some strange intention to somehow unnaturally modify his body or transform into some kind of creature. This is so unfounded and ridiculous that I would have trouble convincing myself that you're not delusional. Your lack of sympathy or consideration is disgusting, and is causing you to waste a lot of time simply because you have not at least applied middle-school level reading comprehension skills to reading Tango's words. This is not a difference of opinion, this is your own failure to understand what is written in front of your face. Nothing more. he should stop with all this if its not his intention to modify his body and let it heal , you also should do the same if you're going through this problem , if you have no intention to modify your body , stop these excercises immediately if i had a lack of sympathy i would just have left him in suffering without adding anything to help , well about the middle school reading .......well try to understand not everybody is in middle school , some of us are in university's and thus will apply a greater understanding and this is where the advice to go to the doctor comes in , if we were all in middle school we would also discourage seeking medical help as you've done , and no matter what you say its not going to make me furious , you are obviously in a lot of pain and the ego you carry is hurting you more , let go otherwise the transformation will only get worse and your body will suffer due to all this and why don't you simply go to a proffessional rather then trying to do all this on your own , in this scientific age when men are going to the moon , you still doubt proffessional help edit : anyways from what i have understood , i cannot really heal everyone and should quit with all this , may you find the healing you're looking for illusions !, there are no illusions there is only that which is the truth
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also vibrating your groin for hours if this is working wonders for you , what more can i say just keep vibrating your thing illusions !, there are no illusions there is only that which is the truth
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just some guy
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jin wrote:its not mentioned anywhere this has been a problem since childhood , otherwise why would after years tango start a thread about this issue , if it was a childhood problem he would be either well adjusted to this issue or have already healed It is indeed mentioned that the problem has existed long before the methods of coping, both in this thread, in others and to between us privately. You've clearly not read his words, if you believe that he should be healed or well-adjusted. You clearly do not care about Tango's experience, but only about how you can project your own onto it, and you are ignoring all else. For instance, here is Tango saying in his own words what I just told you is the case. You failed to read it because you weren't paying attention to things that didn't support your opinion: tango wrote:In my case, the scenario is one where, at a crucial time, the body made a bad choice, based on the info available at the time. From there, it all just kept snowballing, and layer upon layer of tension accumulated until the outside and the inside became like the ends of a twisted towel. In the absence of an effective 'intervention' to reverse the faulty patterns, internal resources were increasingly allocated to just keeping it all from falling apart, until it got to the point where it took running full speed just to stay in place. You have misunderstood what has been said, and this has caused you to make assumptions that do not reflect the reality of the situation. It's okay, really. It happens to the best of us. jin wrote:(from what i understand this is an autoimmune condition perhaps , how i know this is not very important , the important thing is to go to the doc ) I'm no doctor, but at least I actually have a degree in healthcare. That's why I know what I know... Since we supposedly all possess more than a middle-school education, why not admit how you came to possess such intimate knowledge of his condition? Do you have a degree too? Are you his doctor? Should we talk shop, or are you just yanking my chain? Jin wrote:how do you know , you're suffering through something similar i understand , perhaps suffering is blinding you from the truth , i would suggest you practice what i have even told to tango so you can heal aswell Now you're just grasping desperately for ways to undermine my credibility without any reasonable response to what I've said. So far as I'm concerned, you're no longer worth talking to, and I have now lost any desire to dignify this with a response. You obviously don't care for a conversation, and are only interested in seeing others agree with your opinion.
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Hiyo Quicksilver wrote: It is indeed mentioned that the problem has existed long before the methods of coping, both in this thread, in others and to between us privately. You've clearly not read his words, if you believe that he should be healed or well-adjusted. You clearly do not care about Tango's experience, but only about how you can project your own onto it, and you are ignoring all else. For instance, here is Tango saying in his own words what I just told you is the case. You failed to read it because you weren't paying attention to things that didn't support your opinion:
here is a quote that proves that this is not from childhood : tango wrote:Basically, as a result of some quite rare circumstances, my body reached its limits as far as autonomic adaptation goes. From that rock bottom place, I managed, through experimentation, to understand some of the automatic patterns in the body, and also gain some control (using different pathways that normal ones, unfortunately) the quote is obviously from the other thread yet this simply tells us he's doing a lot of unnecessary experimentation , and the body reached its limit not that it was like this from childhood , something forced this , something made it happen tango wrote:In my case, the scenario is one where, at a crucial time, the body made a bad choice, based on the info available at the time. From there, it all just kept snowballing, and layer upon layer of tension accumulated until the outside and the inside became like the ends of a twisted towel. In the absence of an effective 'intervention' to reverse the faulty patterns, internal resources were increasingly allocated to just keeping it all from falling apart, until it got to the point where it took running full speed just to stay in place. also this quote tells us that tango body made a bad choice based on the info available , also this quote tells us that faulty patterns have taken over and he needs intervention , and that is exactly what i am doing intervening with the correct info Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:jin wrote:(from what i understand this is an autoimmune condition perhaps , how i know this is not very important , the important thing is to go to the doc ) I'm no doctor, but at least I actually have a degree in healthcare. That's why I know what I know... Since we supposedly all possess more than a middle-school education, why not admit how you came to possess such intimate knowledge of his condition? Do you have a degree too? Are you his doctor? Should we talk shop, or are you just yanking my chain? i am no doctor yet my diagnosis is this is Fibromyalgia gone on an overdrive combined with a nervous disorder and autoimmune condition alltogether in the mix, all these conditions are related if you try searching around you'll find good info on this Hiyo Quicksilver wrote: So far as I'm concerned, you're no longer worth talking to, and I have now lost any desire to dignify this with a response. You obviously don't care for a conversation, and are only interested in seeing others agree with your opinion.
this is precisely the reason i stopped talking to myself , yet you did dignify my whole post with a response , this does tell us something about you does'nt it ? illusions !, there are no illusions there is only that which is the truth
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Jin wrote:Hiyo Quicksilver wrote: It is indeed mentioned that the problem has existed long before the methods of coping, both in this thread, in others and to between us privately. You've clearly not read his words, if you believe that he should be healed or well-adjusted. You clearly do not care about Tango's experience, but only about how you can project your own onto it, and you are ignoring all else. For instance, here is Tango saying in his own words what I just told you is the case. You failed to read it because you weren't paying attention to things that didn't support your opinion:
here is a quote that proves that this is not from childhood : tango wrote:Basically, as a result of some quite rare circumstances, my body reached its limits as far as autonomic adaptation goes. From that rock bottom place, I managed, through experimentation, to understand some of the automatic patterns in the body, and also gain some control (using different pathways that normal ones, unfortunately) the quote is obviously from the other thread yet this simply tells us he's doing a lot of unnecessary experimentation tango wrote:In my case, the scenario is one where, at a crucial time, the body made a bad choice, based on the info available at the time. From there, it all just kept snowballing, and layer upon layer of tension accumulated until the outside and the inside became like the ends of a twisted towel. In the absence of an effective 'intervention' to reverse the faulty patterns, internal resources were increasingly allocated to just keeping it all from falling apart, until it got to the point where it took running full speed just to stay in place. also this quote tells us that tango body made a bad choice based on the info available , also this quote tells us that faulty patterns have taken over and he needs intervention Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:jin wrote:(from what i understand this is an autoimmune condition perhaps , how i know this is not very important , the important thing is to go to the doc ) I'm no doctor, but at least I actually have a degree in healthcare. That's why I know what I know... Since we supposedly all possess more than a middle-school education, why not admit how you came to possess such intimate knowledge of his condition? Do you have a degree too? Are you his doctor? Should we talk shop, or are you just yanking my chain? i am no doctor yet my diagnosis is this is Fibromyalgia gone on an overdrive combined with a nervous disorder and autoimmune condition , all these conditions are related if you try searching around you'll find goo info on this Hiyo Quicksilver wrote: So far as I'm concerned, you're no longer worth talking to, and I have now lost any desire to dignify this with a response. You obviously don't care for a conversation, and are only interested in seeing others agree with your opinion.
this is precisely the reason i stopped talking to myself , yet you did dignify my whole post with a response , this does tell us something about you does'nt it ? Get a room, boys; just kiss and get it over with. Just interjecting a little humor, no offense intended. We all need to Lighten Up. Fear, belief, love phenomena that determined the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish. We cross and recross our old paths like figure skaters; our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future. ---David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
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^^^^^ i have also started shaking my groin for some joy , and it does feel good illusions !, there are no illusions there is only that which is the truth
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And with that...the bickering Will cease and desist. Everyone is directed here for a refresher. Please do not PM tek related questions Reserve the right to change your mind at any given moment.
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You are trying to ridicule a method that some people might find useful, and your reasons for doing so are not at all clear to me. Back when I started this thread, I was spending a lot of time researching for scientific explanations of what's happening, and they are available for those committed enough to put in the time/effort. So yeah, vibrating the glutes is a good starting point if your goal is to achieve physical/emotional balance. You can giggle about it if you want to, but then also research how power is generated and transmitted in the body, maybe spend some time observing how your own body handles it, and reassess my advice from that new position of understanding.
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brother there is no giggling , quite the opposite i really believed you were harming yourself with this method , not understanding the full extent of what you going through i tried as best to discourage you from manipulating your body if you were in my place and you also believed someone is harming themselves , you would also try to stop them somehow from doing so , when i read you're manipulating your body - it just freaked me out in retrospect i have realized that i did not clearly understand the extent of what you're going through and caused much unnecessary suffering , this was not my intention i apologise for all silly comments , they were just meant to discourage you from manipulating your body , which at that time i believe was harming you , clearly i have not understood this situation well enough if anything i have said has caused much pain , please forgive it as the ramblings of a well intentioned madman illusions !, there are no illusions there is only that which is the truth
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