Hello everyone, I am here as a friend of a friend. They are looking for help on the chemistry side of extraction. I am sure many will be disappointed to hear but I will be in no way shape or form taking part in synthesizing, extracting, or using DMT or any other like chemicals. That being said, they would like to know more on the process of isolating certain chemicals from certain plants that may, or may not contain said chemicals. They are particularly interested in A/B extraction and would like guidance from the community to ensure they do not gain any misguided information. A little about me, I am your average garbage man. I know what your thinking but its not that bad now that they gave us the mechanical hand. I like 80s pop music... dont judge me and can walk on two hands. I hope to become part of the community and share my opinion and thoughts with everyone else.

Here ya go: link

Also, there is a search function in the top right corner. These two things will lead you to just about everything you could need or want to know as far as the extraction of certain alkaloids of interest. I would recommend that your FAOF pick an extraction tek which seems like it will work for them and follow it word for word, in order achieve the best results.

Thank you very much, they have been reading through the forum and have found many useful procedures and other's screw ups to learn from.

Well, good friends help each other out. I am just learning the science of it all, after all isn't knowledge what we are all after? I just prefer to do it through learning instead of chemical usage. Though to each his own.

Oh I forgot to mention why I am now choosing to become a member of the forum as I have been browsing through for a while now. Well, after reading so much through the forum I do have many questions that need answers. This forum was the one that I choose because it had the most, im not sure how to say it... coherent answers, with people that use scientific terms for instance, https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=44251 was one of my favorites. Johnisom uses actual measurements instead of saying "about halfway" and "eyeball 75grams" . What does that even mean? It leaves room for all different types of errors, it doesn't flow right. I'd also like to become a member to offer advice to these "teks" i think they are called to help them make their methods more fluent and offer more precise measurements of sorts. I want to become a member because the information is out there, its just about making it easier to access. One last thing, this mysterious 3rd layer i keep reading about. Not sure what to think of it. Some people are claiming its plant material and is impart the reason for goopy results, while others credit the goopiness to NMT. I'd like to research this further and offer my results to the community.

Welcome to the Nexus!

The fact that many of the teks don`t use accurate measurements but rather estimates is not necessarily because of the writer`s lack of skills, but rather it`s a sign about how extractions are actually very `forgiving`.

As an example, say we want to explain to you how to make a cheese toast. Sure we could measure the exact amount of cheese, but we could also just say `cover the bread with cheese`. If you put some more or some less cheese, it won`t matter too much, given you are within reasonable parameters (but I can understand how for a new person this might seem a bit confusing since hey haven`t realized this quite large `maneuver margin`).

As another example, say you want to add lye/NaOH to a solution to raise the pH. Someone might say "dissolve 50g lye in 1 liter water", which would turn the pH to around 14, and it would be good for an A/B. But if a person adds half that amount, the pH is still 13.8, which is definitely still high enough. Or someone might say add 100g of lye, which would be very high, 14+, so while it is not strictly necessary, it would help reducing any chances of emulsions. So if someone would say `add 25g lye` or `add 50g lye` or `add 100g' lye or 'add around 5 full tablespoons of lye`, it would all be just as correct and easy to follow and work as well.

By the way, emulsions are exactly the `3rd layer` you are talking about, they are no mistery. Emulsions are caused by suspended microdropplets from the water layer that dont separate from the top non-polar layer. This happens commonly and it can easily be prevented and dealt with, as explained in our FAQ. Emulsions are usually created by shaking, and not high enough pH. You are probably familiar with emulsions in cooking, for example mayonese is a big persistent emulsion of an acqueous part (for example the egg), together with an oil, which are mixed at high speed.

Goopy results are not necessarily related to emulsions, they are more likely to be either the presence of NMT from acacia confusa (which tends to be `stubborn` and refuse to crystallize, though infusing some herbs is a fine way to deal with that), or they can also be due to remaining solvent trapped together with the alkaloids, so if you keep scraping and re-scrapping the oil tends to crystallize/harden up.

Lastly, keep posting in these areas, askign questions and answering questions, participating in the threads you can post in, and very soon im sure you`ll be promoted to full membership.

Be well!