So I love real tobacco. I won't touch commercial additive cigarettes and have become such a purist i won't even smoke an american spirit. and have become really interested in tobacco species that are not commercially available but were held sacred by different tribes. if you've ever tried mapacho tobacco, i don't see how you'd ever want to go back to n. tabacum.

anyway i bought a kinnikinnick blend online to try in a mix with tobacco. i like the idea of blending herbs with tobacco or cannabis to deepen and broaden their effects. i was looking at the plants listed in a book, that have been used in traditional blends, and realized i had a bunch of them in an herb sampler pack i got on ebay.

After smoking some good cannabis and smoking these herbs mixed with mapacho tobacco I'm getting some cool visual effects. i'd describe as glittery and glitchy. which seemed to trip out my focal depth perception a little, getting caught up in lights like a moth to a flame.
I used:

Comfrey
Spearmint
willow bark
white sage
a couple datura seeds
strawberry leaf
passionflower
Damiana
Mistletoe leaf

i also had mullein but i left it out since i know it isn't at all psychoactive and just smoothes the smoke.


I started to leave this post half way through the list, figuring nobody cares about a few visuals & that it just sounds like another weak cannabis alternative or something, then i kind of fell asleep. i'd fall into a kind of pre-dreaming trance and be watching mild closed-eye patterning. a few times the colors would go greyscale and it kind of startled me awake. this happens to me occasionally on psychedelics and i never like it. it feels kind of suffocating or like you're falling away into void. So then I got up and went downstairs and felt very odd indeed. like the left side of my body from head to toe was not in perfect sync with the right. this caused a kind of drunkenness. so this lasted much longer than smoked things normally do.

Figured I'd share this, though it wasn't the most pleasant of experiences albeit pretty powerful. I will experiment with again. I felt like maybe i pissed a certain spirit off by not praying or treating it in a holy manner as the indians did. the effects felt quite unique and a little bizarre. some of you may want to point out the datura seeds as the culprit, but i have much experience with datura in very low doses (i used 3 or 4 seeds) and although it does have synergism with cannabis, this was more than that.

The taste was like a menthol cigarette, due to the spearmint, but more earthy.

Kinnikinnick would probably make quite a powerful Changa blend. it seems like some herbs need a good launching pad like dmt, harmalas, good cannabis, strong tobacco, ect., to really get something out of them.

I have also messed around with my own smoking blends. Like you, I prefer only real tobacco. Making blends to suit your own taste is really interesting. I thin one thing people forget is that natives usually didn't smoke tobacco exclusively. It was often mixed with a ton of things, many of which we have no idea about any more. Native Americans invented and perfected this fine art!

There is an herb that grows where I live that is actually named kinnikinnick, have you used it? I have been meaning to find some and try it out in a blend.

As far a changa goes, the best thing for me to boost the experience is to make a blend of herbs that is tasty and easy on the lungs. I know smoking is kinda bad for the lungs, but if when I exhale I feel refreshed with a pleasant flavor, rather than harsh and foul, I usually have a good experience. I think the flavor of DMT can actually enhance the flavor of the smoke overall, if done right.

My current recipe is:

1 Pau D'arco
1 Mullien
1/4 Rock Bloom
3/4 Marigold
3/4 Mexican Tarragon
Pinch of Wormwood powder
1/4 Motherwort
1/4 Hops
1 Mapacho
1 Peppermint
1/4 Syrian Rue

The flavor isn't quite there yet, but its a very nice blend overall. It works really well with spice added.

I have also been meaning to incorporate some red willow bark, as I have read that is a very good one to add.

I'll definitely have to try yours! It sounds very nice.

Kinnikinnick is a wonderful medicine, it is used with and without tobacco and many hundreds of different blends exist. The bearberry plant (uva-ursi) is commonly referred to as kinnikinnick and tends to make up the base of most of the traditional blends I've encountered along with things like red willlow, deer tongue, yerba santa, osha, and of course mullein. Many of these herbs have soothing, cooling, or expectorant qualities and work to help clean the lungs as well as clear the mind.

Now I can't say I've ever had psychedelic visuals or strange drunkenness feelings from using kinnikinnick of course I never added datura seeds either, isn't it pretty tough to smoke seeds? Anyway I commend you for experimenting with different smoking blends and find your results quite interesting.

Yeah, I was gonna mention uva-ursi as the kinnikinnick plant. I have yet to try it. I mixed only what i had available.



Well, I roll it all in raw papers and after the paper burns away and it ashes, there's no more to smoke. so it smokes pretty easy. whereas if i had these seeds and also stem pieces from the herbs in a pipe and kept smoking it, it'd be much harsher. but rolled as a cig, u don't feel like your smoking seeds and such. also not getting as much out of the thicker materials like seeds, but it's more enjoyable to not be harshed by the smoke, and i was still getting some odd effects.

If anyone cares for an update, I tried a kinnick-kinnick blend from a website called myworldhut.com with the ingredients: bear berry, mullein, red willow bark, osha root, & yerba santa.

I find it inferior to the mix i made myself. this blend tastes very bland, like smoking mullein. Or if any of you have ever tried those shitty herbal cigarettes? lol

I think the 2 ingredients that made mine stronger were the datura seeds and willow bark.
Willow bark is where natural aspirin comes from. so it thins the blood like aspirin. i believe smoking this increases the efficacy of the other ingredients. i think the effect it has on the blood may help the other ingredients become assimilated more rapidly.

the internet-bought blend has willow bark in it but i see big chunks of bark, which i'm assuming is the willow bark. which wouldn't smoke easily. the willow bark i used in my blend, i had gotten already powdered.

Pretty cool that mine came out stronger than what seems to be a more popular, or the most popular kinnick-kinnick recipe. I saw other websites selling basically the same constituents of herbs.