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Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil) Options
 
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#281 Posted : 4/22/2009 10:31:01 PM

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This tek looks too good to pass up, I've been avoiding it for weeks now cause I knew this would happen.



you will be very pleased.. this is a brilliant tech.
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#282 Posted : 4/23/2009 1:54:10 AM

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OK. SWIM tried 100mg, to no effect. Now is 2hrs into 300mg and feeling nothing.

His Mesc is like sparkly sand. These are from his later pulls. His first pulls yielded something that looked a little more like what's in breakMYhead's pic.

Is it possible that the sparkly stuff isn't mescaline at all? His first 2 pulls were that amber peel consistency and every one after that has been crystalline.

Or is some cactus just too old. He noticed the very day he purchased his cactus the site he got it off stopped selling it. This suggests to me the guy hasn't been restocking for a while and this was just an old batch that he had left.

Oh and sympathy please because SWIM's been looking forward to trying this for YEARS, then alas... such an anti-climax.

Poor SWIM Sad

Guess SWIM will have to test the amber waxy stuff but isn't all that hopeful.
 
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#283 Posted : 4/23/2009 2:13:34 AM

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SWIM's put 150mg of the peely extract in his coffee. He reports the mesc scent is a bit fresher this time. Could be just that he's looking for it more though.

We'll see.
 
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#284 Posted : 4/23/2009 6:25:42 PM

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SWIM's pure water recrystallization didn't work as well as expected, or he scraped too soon. The part of the dish that he started scraping was dry, tan and waxy, but when he got closer to the other side, he started getting reddish black tar. He didn't finish scraping because of this, but he was wondering whether the tar could be spread back onto the dish and dried further? Or whether it would have to be recrystallized in water. SWIM's going to spread it out quite thin, and if it dries well, it'll probably end up peely and red like breakMYhead's.
 
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#285 Posted : 4/24/2009 2:00:52 AM

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SWIM says, no need to wait for it to completely dry. As long as there's no puddles of water rolling around the dish and one has the proper tools (SWIM uses a razor-blade and a lab spatula/scraping tool), one could scrape up the gooey tar, spread it thin back onto the dish, and continue to do so while folding it in on itself repeatedly. Perhaps this works like taffy or hash? SWIM's not sure as he has little to no experience with either, but that's what he imagines. Anyway, it gets quite hard and dry.
 
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#286 Posted : 4/24/2009 3:31:28 AM

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Hmm, SWIM doesn't recall his last vinegar layer being so milky. He suspects a high yield, as the last one was only 350mg.
 
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#287 Posted : 4/24/2009 10:20:57 PM

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swim is in trouble getting limonene in UK

he have found this:

http://www.quayleisure.c...-p-588.html?currency=GBP

http://www.beaucaremedic...eaner+750ml+Trigger.html

http://www.guardianecost...oduct.aspx?subGroup=3856

http://www.choiceful.com...rpose-Cleaner-500ml.html

he would like to use food grade but can`t find it Sad

please help him
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#288 Posted : 4/25/2009 8:11:54 AM

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rTyler you gotta find the guys that supply all those links with the pure d-limonene.
Maybe try moulding and casting suppliers (that supply products for the special effects industry).
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#289 Posted : 4/25/2009 1:02:05 PM

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My mate has only naphta at the moment.Can he used it? Is mescaline freebase soluble in it?


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#290 Posted : 4/25/2009 1:39:47 PM

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kemist wrote:
My mate has only naphta at the moment.Can he used it? Is mescaline freebase soluble in it?


No. It's practically insoluble in naphtha. You'll need xylene, d-limonene (the best), chloroform, or DCM.
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#291 Posted : 4/27/2009 4:26:27 AM
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Jorkest wrote:
actually SWIM has no problem falling asleep at all...he can eat tons of food.


and man does savory taste good when your belly needs sustenance.
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#292 Posted : 4/27/2009 10:34:37 AM

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swim just tried this tek with a tiny amount of cactus - the tek was hurried and is not finished yet - only 2 pulls were done and the cactus hasnt even digested properly yet - all pulls were done within 5 hours of mixing the cactus and lime

28g outer green flesh from a mix of long spined peruvian torch, bridgesii and bridgesii monstrose were used




mixed with lime and water



it looked better later on


Then evaporated from the vinegar pulls swim yeilded




about 150mg so far - the rest of the work will be done on it today

this stuff is very sticky and kinda hard to handle - is it really worth it to keep it in this form or should swim convert to hcl then wash with acetone - then evap the acetone for the non-mesc actives - anyone tried smoking them yet ?

also to convert this does swim disolve it in 75ml of water with 3 drops hcl added (same ratio as when salting from xylene) and evap ?
can that same ratio be used to salt out mesc hcl instead of using vinegar for the acetate ?
if salting out with hcl instead of vinegar does the hcl solution pick up as much as the acetate pull ?
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#293 Posted : 4/27/2009 3:40:59 PM

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That's what SWIM's looks like ^^ and all he does is repeatedly, scrape, stretch, spread, and fold it. It'll stay stay sticky but will loose the gooey quality and will maintain it's form for the most part. One could at least get to the point where when it's touched, it feels quite solid but sticks slightly though will not leave a resin. SWIM keeps his in a little pipe tobacco tin where he can easily cut it and scrape it up for weighing and administration (SWIM has fantasies about filling the whole tin so that he can just cut pieces off every now and then).
 
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#294 Posted : 4/27/2009 3:42:57 PM

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depending on the cactus SWIM uses he gets different consistencies...his first few batches were nice and waxy..and some of the later pulls become that sticky mess
it's a sound
 
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#295 Posted : 4/27/2009 6:35:27 PM

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pull 3 yeilded the same amount as pull 2 - exactly the same stuff too.
The cactus slime has been broken down by the calcium hydroxide a bit more now and it much nicer to work with.
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SWIM has now obtained a total of 850mg from 100g peruvian torch and is going to try and pull more. SWIM now finds that scraping up the wet tar, spreading back onto the dish, heating it in the oven for a few minutes, spreading the melted product even thinner and allowing it to cool gets it quite solid.
 
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#297 Posted : 4/27/2009 9:41:49 PM

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That's a good way to dry it. The problem is that once the top of it dries, it forms a solid layer that traps the moisture underneath, so scraping it really helps.
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#298 Posted : 4/28/2009 10:05:47 AM

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i have found this in the uk:

ORANGE TERPENES
PRODUCT SPECIFICATION
SPECIFIC GRAVITY @ 20°C - 0.835-0.855g/cm3
APPEARANCE - Water White to yellowish
REFRACTIVE INDEX (20°C) - 1.460-1.480
ALDEHYDE (AS CITRAL) - min 0.3%
LIMONENE - min 95 peak area %
FLASH POINT - 46°C-50°C

it is not food grade, sold by a company who is selling wood oil, solvents, etc...

can i use it?
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#299 Posted : 4/28/2009 11:18:27 AM

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rTyler wrote:
i have found this in the uk:

ORANGE TERPENES
PRODUCT SPECIFICATION
SPECIFIC GRAVITY @ 20°C - 0.835-0.855g/cm3
APPEARANCE - Water White to yellowish
REFRACTIVE INDEX (20°C) - 1.460-1.480
ALDEHYDE (AS CITRAL) - min 0.3%
LIMONENE - min 95 peak area %
FLASH POINT - 46°C-50°C

it is not food grade, sold by a company who is selling wood oil, solvents, etc...

can i use it?


see this thread:

here
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#300 Posted : 4/28/2009 12:22:04 PM

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rTyler wrote:
i have found this in the uk:

LIMONENE - min 95 peak area %


it is not food grade, sold by a company who is selling wood oil, solvents, etc...

can i use it?


I'm not sure what peak area means, but if it's 95% limonene that would be a very good choice.
 
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