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inextweekelorp
#1921 Posted : 12/4/2013 8:58:24 PM

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How many ml's of Xylene should be used to pull 1 gram of DMT?
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#1922 Posted : 12/4/2013 10:01:41 PM

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Tranzcentral wrote:
Be careful not to boil too much, unless your boiling your bark at room temperature under vacuum, i'd just keep your extract nice and warm in a water bath.

Hydrochloric acid is really good also, adjust to PH4 and do 3 times@45mins each.

But i'm new and there are so many teks, so all the best!Smile

Yeah, I think I'll just gently simmer it. And I am also new there, so welcome I guess ^^
 
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#1923 Posted : 12/4/2013 10:19:40 PM

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inextweekelorp wrote:
How many ml's of Xylene should be used to pull 1 gram of DMT?


The size and amount of your pulls, regardless of the solvent you're using, should depend on the amount of organic material you start from and (to a much lesser extent) the volume of the aqeous solution it's sitting in...

When x amount of solvent can dissolve y aount of dmt, this does not mean that x amount of solvent will be able to pull y amount of dmt from a basic solution...

If you read some teks that use xylene as a solvent you will get a good idea of what ratio of organic material/aqeous solution/solvent to use...

Hope this helps (which it probably won't) Pleased
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#1924 Posted : 12/5/2013 11:20:01 AM

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Is it okay if i use a plastic container for the freeze precip ?

I am currently doing an extraction on 50 gr of mhrb with 200 ml solvent (zippo lighter fluid) - 4 pulls X 50 ml ? I'm going to combine all the pulls in one container for freeze precip because of freezer space issues. So can i use a platic tupperware-type container? I have a glass baking dish that i can use instead, but it would be harder to seal-wrap it tightly, as for the plasic container has a lid that fits pretty tight and i will isolate it additionally? I don't want to contaminate my fridge? Is it okay if i use that plastic container or the solvent could dissolve it?

 
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#1925 Posted : 12/5/2013 11:33:48 AM

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slugware wrote:
Is it okay if i use a plastic container for the freeze precip ?

No...simple answer to that...
It will work...but scraping the xtals off will be a nightmare and will invariably scrape some plastic of into the mix...

Just use a jam jar if you can't find a glass, flat bottomed dish. Wink
Food wrap and an elastic band is fine for a seal
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#1926 Posted : 12/5/2013 11:49:02 AM

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cyb wrote:
slugware wrote:
Is it okay if i use a plastic container for the freeze precip ?

No...simple answer to that...
It will work...but scraping the xtals off will be a nightmare and will invariably scrape some plastic of into the mix...

Just use a jam jar if you can't find a glass, flat bottomed dish. Wink
Food wrap and an elastic band is fine for a seal


I assumed it won't be easy to scrape crystals off plastic, and was afraid that solvent could dissolve plastic, but wanted to check here with more experienced people like you! Yes, my initial plan is to use that flat glass baking dish and seal it food-wrap and elastic bands Smile

Thanks for your help, Cyb! Feedback appreciated! Smile

 
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#1927 Posted : 12/5/2013 12:23:42 PM

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Food wrap is also plastic and will degrade from solvent fumes as well... better to use a glass cover or aluminium foil I think...
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#1928 Posted : 12/5/2013 7:11:20 PM

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well prolly not aluminium right cause it will oxidize in the presence of strong acids or bases...
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#1929 Posted : 12/5/2013 7:51:14 PM

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When freezing your pulls there will be no acid or base present Pleased
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#1930 Posted : 12/6/2013 5:11:12 PM

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What solvent do you guys use? I wanted to use Ronsonos, but heard that it doesn't contain naphtha anymore.
 
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#1931 Posted : 12/7/2013 8:15:40 AM

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Tranzcentral wrote:
Ronsol lighter fluid is a very filthy naphtha. Don't use it unless you have absolutely no other choice.

That's your opinion...I use it and get 2%+...
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#1932 Posted : 12/7/2013 12:16:01 PM

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Tranzcentral wrote:
When it comes to yield vs quality, i much prefer the latter..

EXCELLENT!
do a couple pulls with an aromatic and send me your jungle spice.
since you have no use for it, it would be a shame for it to go to waste Razz
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#1933 Posted : 12/7/2013 1:41:26 PM

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cyb wrote:
Tranzcentral wrote:
Ronsol lighter fluid is a very filthy naphtha. Don't use it unless you have absolutely no other choice.

That's your opinion...I use it and get 2%+...


Thanks for info. And is it quality stuff?
 
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#1934 Posted : 12/7/2013 5:27:30 PM

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Depends on who you're asking...

Always do an evaporation test before using any solvent...

"Waschbenzin" (in German) is what you should be looking for - available in most European countries...
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#1935 Posted : 12/7/2013 10:29:53 PM

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Got this one, will do evap and hope it's okay.

http://ilrc.ucf.edu/sear...ile=&s_brand_name_2=

Did an evap and it didn't leave anything. It's fine Smile
 
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#1936 Posted : 12/10/2013 9:23:22 PM

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Does anybody know if dmt-citrate will pass through a coffee filter or not? (while in aqueous solution)...
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#1937 Posted : 12/12/2013 3:35:48 PM

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Just a little question, when I wanna use Cyb's Hybrid Tek and use 65g of MHRB, is multiplying lye, naphtha and water by 1,3 fine? Because 65g is 1,3 times more than 50g
 
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#1938 Posted : 12/12/2013 3:38:01 PM

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keep the levels the same, as long as it goes good and black after basing you will be fine.

I use the max ion tek and have done 100g in 1 1 litre jar and it worked just as well as 50g.
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#1939 Posted : 12/13/2013 11:28:53 AM

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Can a high ionic strength be detrimental to crystal formation in a water crystallisation process? I think both ionic strength and crystal formation are related to inter- or intra-molecular forces, but does that mean there is a direct correlation between ionic strength and crystal formation, or not?

Sorry if this is "too advanced" a question to post here (lol) but I'm looking for a swift reply and my question may go unnoticed in its current location in a thread in the adv. chem. section Pleased

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#1940 Posted : 12/13/2013 9:22:02 PM

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Yea. Ask that in the advanced chem section. I don't think anyone that knows the basics behind the extraction process is gonna know the correlation between ionic strength and crystal formation in an h2o solution.
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